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Rick Lee 03-17-2013 07:48 AM

Bully beatdown or sucker punch or both?
 
This a-hole really had it coming, but not necessarily from the guy who gave it to him.

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Steve Carlton 03-17-2013 08:01 AM

I think that's exactly how he deserved it.

flatbutt 03-17-2013 08:02 AM

sucker punch all the way. A beat down is done toe to toe. But one heck of a punch. Actually that punch would have hospitalized me.

So why does the punchee end up in custody?

pavulon 03-17-2013 08:03 AM

served.

Rick Lee 03-17-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 7333881)

So why does the punchee end up in custody?

What? He was randomly punching total strangers unprovoked - that's why.

craigster59 03-17-2013 08:29 AM

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speeder 03-17-2013 08:37 AM

When you start assaulting people in a public place, sometimes instant karma occurs. He got a double-dose, getting knocked out and then this youTube video.

Rick V 03-17-2013 08:37 AM

He deserved it no doubt, but the two shots he took (mild as they were) are uncalled for. You never kick someone when they are down

ckelly78z 03-17-2013 08:37 AM

When you go around punching anyone within arms reach, you're bound to have it coming to you via a sucker punch.

KaptKaos 03-17-2013 08:39 AM

Sucker punch for sure. Justice too.

BlueSkyJaunte 03-17-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7333948)
You never kick someone when they are down

Unless they're an @$$h0le. Then a curb-stomping is perfectly acceptable.

Rick Lee 03-17-2013 08:47 AM

I wonder if this bully will lose his job after the Youtube exposure like that idiot who chewed out the girl at the Chick-Fil-A drive-thru.

speeder 03-17-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7333948)
He deserved it no doubt, but the two shots he took (mild as they were) are uncalled for. You never kick someone when they are down

That's old fashioned thinking, (from our generation). Nowadays, they think nothing of throwing some kicks into a sleeping fighter or going 3-1 if that's what it takes to win. I'm not sure that sucker-punch is even a term anymore. :rolleyes:

That said, having worked in nightclubs and having seen a lot of chaotic fights, you can expect to get dropped like that in a crowd situation. He had no idea who might be friends with the guys he was hitting. The guy who got dropped was assaulting people who were not interested in fighting or threatening him in any way...he deserved what he got. Ironically, the guy who hit him could have done the exact same thing toe-to-toe from what I saw on the video.

SXSW has turned into such a 3-ring clusterfuch that I'm surprised anyone still wants to go. :cool:

Gogar 03-17-2013 09:07 AM

I find the outcome of that video satisfactory.

masraum 03-17-2013 09:08 AM

I see no problem with it. The guy that got popped originally didn't want to fight and clearly couldn't defend himself. The fact that someone else doled out the justice doesn't phase me a bit.

Maybe the jackass will think twice next time.

Vipergrün 03-17-2013 09:28 AM

Too bad the guy who threw the punch can probably face assault charges and a lawsuit. That's how bassackwards this country has become.

Quite a *****slap eh Denis? :--)

pwd72s 03-17-2013 09:30 AM

He "won"....a pair of pretty bracelets. Gosh, what a guy. Gosh, I'm glad I got too old for that krap!

carambola 03-17-2013 09:38 AM

the two guys popped up on the radar, but were dismissed as being in the bully's corner.

nice connection, i bet he threw from the knees.

classic sucker punch

look 171 03-17-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 7334044)
He "won"....a pair of pretty bracelets. Gosh, what a guy. Gosh, I'm glad I got too old for that krap!

My sister worked in ICU for a few years. She once told me a story about a retired man walking home from a store and was jumped by a bunch of young men. The bastards took his $20 dollars and continue to kick him when he was on the ground. He was paralyzed when he go to the hospital. This was in the middle class neighborhood (the San Fernando Valley). Just gotta be careful.

speeder 03-17-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 7334007)
Maybe the jackass will think twice next time.

Doubt it. We used to say, "taught him a lesson that he'll never remember." :D

fintstone 03-17-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 7333948)
He deserved it no doubt, but the two shots he took (mild as they were) are uncalled for. You never kick someone when they are down

+1. He was being an asshat, but not realy hurting anyone. The video does not show the entire thing, but the guys he was tapping were active participants as they raised their hands, clearly were talking smack and did not walk away (people walked by and none were screwed with). The guy that nailed him was not screwed with in any way before he blindsided the guy. Cheap shot all the way.

That is the reason I don't get into bar fights any more. No one fights fair and they kick a man on the ground. After he is knocked out. everyone gets tough and steps up to inflict some punishment. What scares me is that if you knock a guy out like this, his head hits the ground like a big pumpkin. You could easily cause brain damage or kill the guy and end up in prison for a very long time. It is always on video and the internet now...so it is hard to avoid getting locked up or sued.

HardDrive 03-17-2013 10:33 AM

He went fishing, and to the surprise of no one, he caught a fish. Case closed.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-17-2013 11:09 AM

Bush Doctrine Pre-emptive Strike illustrated perfectly.

Tobra 03-17-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 7334039)
Too bad the guy who threw the punch can probably face assault charges and a lawsuit. That's how bassackwards this country has become.

Quite a *****slap eh Denis? :--)

That happened in Texas. No way he gets charges or civil suit amounting to anything.

Baz 03-17-2013 12:20 PM

I rate this thread [and sucker punch] 5 stars!

pavulon 03-17-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 7334108)
+1. He was being an asshat, but not realy hurting anyone. The video does not show the entire thing, but the guys he was tapping were active participants as they raised their hands, clearly were talking smack and did not walk away (people walked by and none were screwed with). The guy that nailed him was not screwed with in any way before he blindsided the guy. Cheap shot all the way.


That POS was BEGGING for a fight. Hopping around in a crowd with his fists clenched/cocked BEGGING for it. I didn't see anyone else dying to square off and it's clear that this nozzle wasn't going to be satisfied without blood loss. He knocked for quite awhile before next-door Darwin in grey T-shirt answered.

Douche-nozzle has left the game.

widgeon13 03-17-2013 12:43 PM

That boy just wasn't paying attention to his audience.

fintstone 03-17-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 7334296)
That POS was BEGGING for a fight. Hopping around in a crowd with his fists clenched/cocked BEGGING for it. I didn't see anyone else dying to square off and it's clear that this nozzle wasn't going to be satisfied without blood loss. He knocked for quite awhile before next-door Darwin in grey T-shirt answered.

Douche-nozzle has left the game.

The guy that took the beating was begging for a fight (not really...he didn't expect any of the 4 or 5 wimpy guys to do anything but take it), but...there wasn't a fight. The guy (coward) that punched him just stepped out of the crowd and blindsided him. Similar to shooting a guy in the back.

pavulon 03-17-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 7334344)
The guy that took the beating was begging for a fight (not really...he didn't expect any of the 4 or 5 wimpy guys to do anything but take it), but...there wasn't a fight. The guy (coward) that punched him just stepped out of the crowd and blindsided him. Similar to shooting a guy in the back.

If DN walks into a crowd brandishing a gun (flashing fists here) and points it at someone (here: slaps a guy), are you suggesting that DN has to shoot someone (punch them) before anyone can take the DN out (from the side or behind or above or with a bat or...)?

fintstone 03-17-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 7334387)
If DN walks into a crowd brandishing a gun (flashing fists here) and points it at someone (here: slaps a guy), are you suggesting that DN has to shoot someone (punch them) before anyone can take the DN out (from the side or behind or above or with a bat or...)?

Wow...that is confusing. You make it sound like some sort of self-defense. It was not. It is this simple. I would suggest that approaching a drunk from behind, knocking them out and kicking them while they are down on the ground because you saw them half-ass, girly, ***** slap another man about their same size to be a bit out of line...especially by someone not even involved in the situation. If the guy that hit the punk from behind simply wanted to break up the potential fight....he should have just steppped up like a man and told the punk to back off. He did not.

pavulon 03-17-2013 02:11 PM

We'll have to agree to disagree...about the DN and my analogy.

I'm sticking with DN got a taste of what he was looking to dish out to anyone he saw fit.

GH85Carrera 03-17-2013 02:11 PM

The punch might be a sucker punch, but it was a real sucker that took the punch.

That video was great. One jerk changed from bully to victim. Perfect.

mikesride 03-17-2013 02:16 PM

Sucker punch, by definition for sure....Deserved? Yes definitely!!!

LeeH 03-17-2013 02:36 PM

Sucker punch yes, but in defense of others. I think the hazard of doing something like that (even if justifed) is the the punchee strikes his head on the pavement and dies. Hopefully, if that does happen, the jury agrees that the punch was justified. Still, seems like the puncher could go down for manslaughter.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-17-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 7334435)
Wow...that is confusing. You make it sound like some sort of self-defense.

Bush Doctrine.

GH85Carrera 03-17-2013 02:56 PM

Bully beatdown or sucker punch or both?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 7334508)
Sucker punch yes, but in defense of others. I think the hazard of doing something like that (even if justifed) is the the punchee strikes his head on the pavement and dies. Hopefully, if that does happen, the jury agrees that the punch was justified. Still, seems like the puncher could go down for manslaughter.

It is like stepping on a roach. That bully lost any sympathy the second he punched the guy just standing there.

flatbutt 03-17-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 7334508)
Sucker punch yes, but in defense of others. I think the hazard of doing something like that (even if justifed) is the the punchee strikes his head on the pavement and dies. Hopefully, if that does happen, the jury agrees that the punch was justified. Still, seems like the puncher could go down for manslaughter.

Agree, the puncher was not being threatened. At least it wasn't apparent in that video.

vash 03-17-2013 05:04 PM

that one guy missed with his kick!! he would have been done for if it got crazy.

1979 930 03-17-2013 05:36 PM

I think that guy is going to spend the rest of his days looking for that sucker punch guy and he will never see it coming !!!

Por_sha911 03-17-2013 06:35 PM

Shaun: how about backing off on the (not one but two) PARFy Bush statements?


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