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VincentVega 09-23-2015 07:38 AM

Is there traffic in the midwest? :)

Not a fan of the tip either but its hard to argue with the slushbox if you have to commute in anythink like DC traffic. At least its not a cvt.

Scott R 09-23-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8806572)
The 2nd gear pop isn't that common, and it's not a hard fix. In my opinion an automatic in a Porsche defeats the purpose, and the tiptronic is basically a gimmick.

It was $4k + shipping and three weeks downtime. I think you may be thinking of that 2nd gear detent update you can do for around $200. That doesn't really fix the problem. The issue is a tolerance problem on the second gear syncro.

The issue in my case and a lot of others is that once this starts to happen it gets progressively worse and causes problems in the rest of the transaxel as well. I needed new syncros on just about every gear, and Eric at g-box had to machine the second gear syncro in a special way as to allow the dogs to engage differently. It was a very involved process, but the problem is gone.

techweenie 09-23-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 8806736)
It was $4k + shipping and three weeks downtime. I think you may be thinking of that 2nd gear detent update you can do for around $200. That doesn't really fix the problem. The issue is a tolerance problem on the second gear syncro.

The issue in my case and a lot of others is that once this starts to happen it gets progressively worse and causes problems in the rest of the transaxel as well. I needed new syncros on just about every gear, and Eric at g-box had to machine the second gear syncro in a special way as to allow the dogs to engage differently. It was a very involved process, but the problem is gone.

^^^

This is the correct answer. One side benefit of the Tip is that you will not have over-revs which are quite common with 6-speeds - especially if random shoppers do "test drives." My TT is a 6-speed, but if my car had been a Tip and was otherwise identical, I'd have bought it.

1990C4S 09-23-2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8805924)
That Mclaren looks like a buy......

Carbon fiber underpinnings might be damaged....

Scuba Steve 09-23-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 8806804)
Carbon fiber underpinnings might be damaged....

Quick, call NDI!

onewhippedpuppy 09-23-2015 06:20 PM

I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but I've had seven 996/986 with original transmissions and between 60k and 135k. I believe the detent is more preventative, and I don't think having to replace every syncro is typical. But it sucks if it happens to you. I know a guy locally that's looking at a transmission rebuild on a 40k mile 2008 997S.

Still, it's better than a slushbox.:)

impactbumper 09-23-2015 07:32 PM

Tip turbos are faster. There are a few upgrades that can be done to have them shoft more crisp, faster and handle more torque. I am not an automatic transmission person in general, especially on sports cars but 996tt with a tip is actually a delight to drive.

Racerbvd 09-23-2015 08:41 PM

I had an unsolicited 996 related e--mail yesterday. Someone offered to trade me a 2002 996, no motor or tranny, salvage title. for my 81SC roller..

Craig T 09-23-2015 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 8807789)
I had an unsolicited 996 related e--mail yesterday. Someone offered to trade me a 2002 996, no motor or tranny, salvage title. for my 81SC roller..

I bet he did! LOL If you're considering it, I'll go to LA Dismantlers and make you the same offer.

Racerbvd 09-23-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig T (Post 8807810)
I bet he did! LOL If you're considering it, I'll go to LA Dismantlers and make you the same offer.

I LOLed, not a chance at me letting an SC go for that, but did offer him a 914 project. The 996 would be fun with an LS1 in it. :D

Craig T 09-24-2015 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 8807816)
I LOLed, not a chance at me letting an SC go for that, but did offer him a 914 project. The 996 would be fun with an LS1 in it. :D

You can backdate that 81, put in a 993 3.6 variorum junk yard motor, paint it Tangerine or Viper green and sell it for $100,000!

bpu699 09-24-2015 08:50 AM

I have owned a boxster s and 99 996 tiptronics... Not as much fun to drive as my stick shift cars...

I am in the market for another 996, as my wife wants one. It will be a tiptronic again. This way, everyone in the family can drive it... Also, a manual in traffic, is a pain.

If the car is going to be your only "fun" car, then get the manual. If you already have cars that are manual, get the tiptronic...

I know many believe that a tip is slower than a manual... I doubt it. On a road course perhaps 10% of real world drivers with be faster with a maunal. 90% faster with a tiptronic.

911boost 09-24-2015 09:54 AM

My turbo is a manual, I did not even look at the tip's. They are cheaper though.

I am also seeing the 996TT prices creeping up a little so get it now!

Bill

Shaun @ Tru6 09-24-2015 12:12 PM

What's more important? Faster by 10ths that you can't really feel or more involvement equaling more fun.

onewhippedpuppy 09-24-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 8808674)
What's more important? Faster by 10ths that you can't really feel or more involvement equaling more fun.

Amen. Unless you race it, who gives a damn about 0.2 seconds.

WPOZZZ 09-24-2015 08:24 PM

Funny thing, all my water cooled Porsches have been Tips. My 2008 Tip S shifts faster than the 2002 Tip S. Both are great cars for a DD, but would be more fun with a stick. My turbo is modded and with the Tip, I don't have to worry about over revs, unlike my 930.

A930Rocket 09-26-2015 09:11 AM

I just missed this today by a few minutes!

$10,900!!!

1999 Porsche 911 Carrera Spartanburg SC 10945802

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1443283881.jpg

GWN7 09-26-2015 02:11 PM

Nice. Right colour (for me). :)

Craig T 09-26-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GWN7 (Post 8811528)
Nice. Right colour (for me). :)

Me too! I love colored cars…Even red :cool:

fastfredracing 09-26-2015 03:38 PM

Wow , I would have grabbed that one right up ..


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