Of course not but what about before the shot?

Video is released...

Curtis Reeves movie theater shooting video shown in court | wtsp.com

Alan Hamilton, a corporal with the Sumter County sheriff's office who was in the theater with his wife, said he heard Oulson saying, at one point, "I am trying to text my f**king daughter, if you don't mind" -- using graphic language that Reeves' lawyer said suggested Oulson was angry and threatening.

Popcorn flew in Reeves' direction soon thereafter.

"And almost immediately," recalled Turner, who said Oulson threw the bag, "the gun comes out and there (was a shot) fired."

A lone bullet, according to several witnesses, struck the 43-year-old Navy veteran, who worked at a local powersports store, in the chest.

Oulson then stumbled and said, "I can't believe he shot me," before falling on Cummings' son, the witness recalled.

A nurse who also happened to be in theater then testified -- as Oulson's widow, Nicole, wiped away tears -- about his unsuccessful efforts to save Oulson's life.

According to Turner, Reeves himself said, "Throw popcorn in my face."


Hamilton said he acted quickly to take the gun from Reeves -- who was sitting, as he'd been during the shooting -- and subdue him right after the shooting.

Before more authorities arrived, Reeves' wife told her husband "that was no cause to shoot anyone," according to Hamilton, who was then off duty.

Reeves responded by pointing his finger at her and saying, according to Hamilton, "You shut your f**king mouth and don't say another word."

The off-duty corporal said that at one point, Reeves pushed back his glasses and said out loud, "Holy f**k, what have I done?"

^ I read that...It's in the lawyers hands now.

The Widow was just on The View saying there was no popcorn thrown...

From here on out, both sides are going to be lying thanks to their lawyers.

"There is no justification for what happened in there. If I had it to do over again, it would have never happened," Curtis Reeves told Pasco County sheriff's detectives in a taped interview hours after the Jan. 13 shooting, played at Reeves' Friday bond hearing. "But you don't get do-overs."

Subdue him? He was sitting quietly, did not need to be subdued.

Did the widow testify in court already? I wonder if they will charge her with perjury, probably not.

More guns than brains.

The widow is already cashing on her dead husband. :rolleyes:

This is all I could find on the widow's comment:

"It was a couple of words. No threats. No harm. No nothing," Nicole Oulson said on ABC. "We're both very respectful when the movie is on, that we put our phones away, so he took a couple of seconds just to check the phone to make sure there were no messages about our daughter."

Is there some other program or comments that point to her denying popcorn was thrown?

Having looked at the video several times now . I see the shooter had a box of popcorn in his left hand and was sitting with his gun already in his right hand. No move was made to draw the gun it must have been in his hand already.
Seems to me the shooter pushed the popcorn box towards the victim ,who grabbed it and tossed it back at the shooter.
Then in the same move the shooter fires . Shooter never even rose from his seat. The shooter appears to have already decided to provoke the issue and was prepared to finish with a shot.
Bail denied again.

Not looking good for pops. That's for sure.

The video shows no fists flying. Worse, it shows many many rows of empty seats. It would have been extremely easy to go move up 5 rows and not worry about what folks are doing further down.

It is almost like pops was out that day to go stir up trouble.

I don't understand the "widow is cashing in" comment. Seems pretty heartless. My wife sure would come down hard on my killer, no matter the circumstances. And even if it is solely for $$$. Don't you think the lady may need the money, having to raise her family by herself now?

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Tampa, FL -- Just hours before she's expected to take the stand at the bond hearing for Curtis Reeves, Nicole Oulson was taking to the airwaves.

Oulson was a guest Thursday on the national TV talk show, The View.

"In zero to 60, my whole world just changed... it was shattered for no reason," she told the show's hosts.

Oulson says she has no recollection of whether popcorn was thrown during an argument between Reeves and her husband, Chad.

Nicole Oulson, wife of movie theater shooting victim, appears on "The View" | wtsp.com

Of course, she's not going to say that her husband threatened the old man...Everything she's saying to the public are her lawyer's words.

And vice versa for the Reeves.

Interesting that Reeves wife testified she didn,t hear any threats by Oulson.
(From the video) When Reeves walked back to his seat( after being in the lobby). He probably already had his gun out because I can,t see any draw motion before the shot . Reeves had the popcorn box in his left hand and pushed it towards Oulson, then Reeves took the box and threw it back at the exact same time he was shot.
Hard to believe Reeves didn,t know what was happening.

Thanks for the link.

Still, it doesn't support the statement posted that the widow denied that popcorn was thrown--she simply stated she didn't recall seeing it happen. To claim she did deny it, and to jump to a question as to if she may have committed perjury (as another poster asked) is an example of how easily factual information can quickly can change into misinformation.

He does not have the gun out when he returns, you can see him pick up the popcorn with his right hand, transfer it to his left then put his right hand on the arm of the seat as he sits down.

Looks like Reeves pulls the gun just after Oulson threw the cell phone at him and just before Oulson grabs Reeves popcorn and throws it back in his face.

This is the most common conclusion I've heard from people who've seen the video. Put some things together: The defense offered an enhanced version that makes it appear Oulson threw his cell phone at Reeves. Then we have the statement of a witness claiming Reeves said to throw the popcorn. Next we see in the video, Reeves appear to push the popcorn forward, Oulson grab the popcorn from Reeves' left hand, throw it back, and in a fraction of a second, with one smooth movement, Reeves pulls the gun and shoots.

At this point, I think an argument could be made that Reeves set up Oulson for the shot. If the defense claims Oulson threw a cell phone before the popcorn, why didn't Reeves shoot then? Why did he goad Oulson to throw popcorn at him? How could Reeves have fired almost simultaneously with the throw without a drawing motion unless the gun was on his lap? How does all this new information ( thrown cell phone, goading to throw the popcorn, pushing the popcorn forward) square with Reeves' claim he was hit by an unknown object and shot out of fear?

With what is out now, I cannot be convinced that Reeves didn't know what he was doing, and that fear of attack was not a factor.

Unless he has 3 hands he did not have the gun out before sitting down.

Does not look like he is pushing the popcorn forward, he is leaning forward, popcorn in left hand and pulling his piece from his waistband after getting hit with the cell phone.

Agree, things are open to interpretation. He may have drawn the weapon when you said. He may not have pushed the popcorn forward. But if the witness's claim that he said to throw the popcorn is true, then it appears he waited until that happened before firing. There goes his claim of being hit by an unknown object--he knew it was popcorn, even if he never said to throw it, he knew Oulson took it from him. If the unknown object was the phone, why did he not shoot then? Why wait several seconds until the popcorn is thrown unless he wanted to be ready by putting the gun on his lap?

BTW, does anyone know for a fact if Reeves walked into the theater with the gun? I mean, is it possible when he went to get the manager, he actually went to get his weapon instead? Just asking.

The first thing that every victim's spokesperson/lawyer always says after something like this is, "please respect the family's privacy and allow them to grieve "or words to that effect. That being said, they go on local radio shows and now national TV. I live here, I've hear her and her attorney make the rounds on the local media. She's posturing for the trail and the civil suit.

Is she dating yet?

Yep...a man who would throw his cell phone at a stranger in a movie theater isn't the least bit agressive/threatening.

Sad but seemingly true.

Throwing a cell phone is something an enraged teenager would do.

So why did a grown male throw it? Seems really stupid.

She went to movies and her husband was murdered and she was shot and injured.

The inference in your remark does you no credit at all. It seriously calls your character into question. Are you so wedded to your gun fixation that you cant even consider the possibility of a gun being used inappropriately, that it actually strips you of any empathy you have as a human being to the harm caused to another human being?

What the F is wrong with that guy. Shot the damn guy?!?! Just get up and leave. He's a headcase and should be in jail for the rest of his life.

Looking at the video... The old guy is done.

Here is what Reeve said to the police, in the police car, after the shooting:

"Suddenly he's virtually on top of me. I reach in my pocket. I'm stretched out trying to get away from him. I'm either saying 'no no no' or 'whoa whoa whoa.' Suddenly my head was to the right. He hit me with his fist or something. I assume it was his fist and something is wrong with my left eye. . . . I was kind of dazed — had to be from the strike. I felt like I had something in my eye. Still do."

This was stated before anyone knew there was video of the incident. Not close at all to what is on the video, IMO.

Keep in mind also, the phone being thrown is just a claim by the defense at this time, based on a bright spot on the video. It may or may not prove to be true.

Actually, he should get the chair.

Extra crispy.

When they throw the switch on that POS...I'm going to unplug my refrigerator just to make sure they have enough juice!

I couldn't view the video, but it sounds like Reeves's goose is rightly cooked. Don't drop the soap.

But why the hell would an ex-cop give any kind of statement to the police, much less a whole recap of the event? He has to have known there was nothing he could say that was going to help his case and, even when an on-duty cop is involved in a justified shoot, he STFU until he has a lawyer.

He ain't gonna get murder one. Murder two at best.

Mmmm...then they will at least have enough current to cook his goose...;-)

I wonder if there is going to be a closer look into pop's past and any shootings he may have been involved in during his time in the force?

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Because it happened exactly the way he described it.

Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.

I take a little solace that he'll be in jail for the rest of his life and his "friends" will make his life hell. I would prefer he get the electric chair. Society has no place for people like this.

Assault, even if it is popcorn or a cell phone against a senior citizen in Florida is a felony. His defense will be he was defending himself from a felony attack and the force was justified.

Using that defense in court will get him life in prison.SmileWavy

Be polite and kind to strangers folks.

The way your parents raised you to be.

Nicole's recollection of events, is much different.

"I can't honestly say popcorn was thrown. There was conversation, the gentleman confronted my husband several times which he ignored, and ignored and ignored," she said.

Widow in theater shooting, Nicole Oulson, speaks out on The View | wtsp.com


Like URY914, I also live here. She is posturing for the trial. Every time I hear her speak, I know those are her lawyers' words.

Maybe we have a judge similar to Judge Boyd from the Affluenza trial...