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EMJ 01-17-2014 02:40 PM
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How is it not honorable to defend the shooter based on the premise of innocent until proved guilty? In fact, why is it not honorable to argue most anything one has an opinion on?
My reply was to Biv, the passive aggressive, indirect guy.;)

I'm out. It's been... Interesting. Until the next one. :)

fintstone 01-17-2014 02:42 PM
Hope she learned her lesson. Glaring is effective,

Baz 01-17-2014 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 7861807)
I believe he confronted them and reported them to theater manager as well. Then glared at them all movie long. Same scenario minus the popcorn throwing, and you know, the killing and all.
Plus in that first scenario - I believe the offending texter was told by theater management to shut her phone off.

Thus averting another shooting - in theory.

Baz 01-17-2014 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 7861856)
LOL.....that's an old pic of me, BTW....I'm now sporting a mohawk.... ;)

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Baz 01-17-2014 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 7862152)
My reply was to Biv, the passive aggressive, indirect guy.;)

I'm out. It's been... Interesting. Until the next one. :)
You'll be back....:D

bivenator 01-17-2014 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 7862152)
My reply was to Biv, the passive aggressive, indirect guy.;)

I'm out. It's been... Interesting. Until the next one. :)
Passive aggressive guy? I did address you much earlier in the thread in an indirect way. I asked if you needed help making a sign for your missing goat. You seemed to be getting kinda hot and wanted to lower the temps a bit.

After reading the back and forth in this thread I am glad the participants aren't armed with popcorn and guns. The same unwillingness to back down as the guys in the theatre on display.

KFC911 01-17-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 7862189)
....After reading the back and forth in this thread I am glad the participants aren't armed with popcorn and guns.....
I wanna post that popcorn eating GIF, but I'm afraid I'll miss my mouth and get shot :D

I think I'll return when this thread hits 100 pages....

Tobra 01-17-2014 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 7861916)
Simmer down there. I never stated any of my opinions are fact. Witnesses mentioned he was very upset during the entire exchange. This is a fact and it's been confirmed. And I don't care what his son would and would act like. My question is a hypothetical. Why don't you let him answer the question (If he so wishes to)?
Yes, you have presented your opinion as fact. Here you present the opinions of others as fact.

He can respond, if chooses to do so
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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 7861916)
And yes, it's a fact that anger taints our judgment. Accept it or don't, it's true.
This is a correct statement of fact, good for you.
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And it's already been established Fin is just being contrarian. I don't believe he believes what he's arguing for. Just trying to get an honest answer but it doesn't really matter.
That has not been established, it is your opinion. You are, in my opinion, mistaken. Given my experience dealing with Fintstone here, I do not believe he would ever put something down that he does not believe. Maybe you are right and this is the first time.

You certainly seem to enjoy arguments, good luck with that.

fintstone 01-17-2014 06:05 PM
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dondarnell 01-17-2014 08:08 PM
Act like a dick in a movie theater and you might wind up dead. Whether the shooter is right or wrong (probably wrong) a dick is a dick, and dead ends your dick-ness.

Heel n Toe 01-17-2014 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 7862152)
I'm out. It's been... Interesting.
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sc_rufctr 01-18-2014 12:28 AM
No videos or photos of the incident have leaked yet. I'm kind of surprised.
Do they have security cameras in theatres over there? We have them here but it's supposed to be a secret. :rolleyes:

Did no one think to snap a few off?

DanielDudley 01-18-2014 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 7860174)
Fox, there's a link to a story from another couple that had a run in with him. The quote was from that incident.

I work with a guy that has one of those ON/OFF switches. 0-100 in 1.2 secs. You don't get much warning from him when he gets irritated and the intensity hits a peak.

All speculation I know but, the escalation could have been equally quick from both guys. Old Cop is already pissed when he heads back into the theater. This I can see clearly. Dead Guy calls him out for tattling like a bitc! and the cop throws some choice words back as well.

I know guys that are fully ready to throw down if they're called a pussy and they know it wasn't said as a joke.

What it comes down to is whether as a society we accept that having a bag of popcorn thrown at us is justification for responding with lethal force.

I dont, regardless of who started what..

His status as an ex cop will go against him at trial for murder 2 if it goes that far. His fearing for his life is a tissue thin defense. I'm sure he knows this from experience. It'll be interesting to see what his ego allows. Will he take a plea?
Thanks for that. I seems like a rational response.

. If you cannot handle the awesome responsibility of instant death, you don't deserve to walk the streets.

fintstone 01-18-2014 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by foxpaws (Post 7861127)
do you have the source where it states the texter's wife was restraining him?
Dont think I forgot your request...just needed a computer, not a phone

"The round also hit Oulson's wife, Nichole, in the hand as she tried to pull her husband away, authorities said."

Retired Tampa cop denied bail in movie-theater slaying - U.S. News

fintstone 01-18-2014 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by foxpaws (Post 7861423)
...I also never said the seats were extraordinary high - again - have you been in a theater in the last 20 years which had high back seats and stadium seating? If you have you know that if you have looked at someone behind you thinking you could hit that person and inflict great bodily harm is somewhat of a stretch. But, this is all speculation sir.

You can see over the seats, you could certainly shoot over them (the shooter was on 'high ground') it doesn't mean you could easily punch someone to the point where they feared great bodily harm over them from the lower position.
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fintstone 01-19-2014 08:13 AM
Of course an elderly person should fear a physical attack. Elderly are a bit more fragile...and die every day from an assault that would be much less dangerous on a younger person.Man dies after being punched - Worcester Telegram & Gazette - telegram.com

Shaun @ Tru6 01-19-2014 08:19 AM
did I mention he was persistent.

fintstone 01-19-2014 08:21 AM
Just responding to questions that were posed earlier...when I was standing on a train using a phone. A real computer is helpful.

DanielDudley 01-19-2014 09:59 AM
I see he's using the flashlight app...

Racerbvd 01-19-2014 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 7855228)
It sounds like he asked a guy to put his phone away a few times, then went and complained to the manager. When he returned to his seat, the phone guy confronts him, phone guy gets shot dead and the woman with him gets one through the hand. That does not fit with the headline about shooting the guy because he was on the phone.
That is typical for media sensationalism headlines these days, the Zimmerman case wouldn't have been noticed if it stated drug dealer attacked Hispanic resident, or a local one where they reported that a kid was shot over loud music, when in fact, 4 teens yelled & threatened the guy who felt the need to defend himself after seeing what was thought to be a gun pointed at him, and the left out the fact that the driver of those teens was a convicted felon and was actually breaking his probation at the time. The Man responded to being threatened, not loud music, and at that time, Black Male youths were randomly attacking White people:mad:
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No videos or photos of the incident have leaked yet. I'm kind of surprised.
Do they have security cameras in theatres over there? We have them here but it's supposed to be a secret.

Did no one think to snap a few off?
After the old guy shot someone for having their phone out would you really be pulling your phone out??


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