FL Retired cop, shoots texting wanker

[Shaun @ Tru6]

It's a shame Reeves can't speak out and explain how he was violently attacked and only killed a man as the last resort because he was in fear for his life.

he's a cuddly grampa character, a victim of constant and severe brutality, who had no choice.

We need to hear his voice.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

It's a shame Reeves can't speak out and explain how he was violently attacked and only killed a man as the last resort because he was in fear for his life.

he's a cuddly grampa character, a victim of constant and severe brutality, who had no choice.

We need to hear his voice.

Did you watch the video? Was this supposed to be in green text?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Baz

Be polite and kind to strangers folks.

The way your parents raised you to be.

Because they may be armed, spring-loaded killers with a massive chip on their shoulders? Or did you mean that the old guy should have been more polite?

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

Nicole's recollection of events, is much different.

"I can't honestly say popcorn was thrown. There was conversation, the gentleman confronted my husband several times which he ignored, and ignored and ignored," she said.

Widow in theater shooting, Nicole Oulson, speaks out on The View | wtsp.com


Like URY914, I also live here. She is posturing for the trial. Every time I hear her speak, I know those are her lawyers' words.

Not trying to nit pick, but this still doesn't justify the claim that she is denying popcorn was thrown. She is claiming that she, personally, cannot say for certain that popcorn was thrown. I am only commenting on this because, IMO, it is significantly incorrect to say she is denying an act that clearly happened.

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

It's a shame Reeves can't speak out and explain how he was violently attacked and only killed a man as the last resort because he was in fear for his life.

he's a cuddly grampa character, a victim of constant and severe brutality, who had no choice.

We need to hear his voice.

While I disagree with your assessment of Reeves character, I completely agree with your last sentence. That will happen at the trial. I try to reserve judgements until all sides have a chance to speak. I will comment on developing information and offer possible conclusions that may be drawn from it, but I try not to assign guilt or innocence on piecemeal information which may or may not be true.

That being said, the information released so far is mostly from the prosecution, during the arrest and bail hearing. However, the piece about the cell phone, if it proves to be true, is new to me and offers a shading as to whether or not Reeves had a legitimate right to feel fear.

We need to wait for the trial or the release of other confirmed facts to truly justify our final opinions, IMO.

[speeder]

A jury will decide the whole "feel fear" BS...unless he cops a plea. He's charged and going on trial for murder.

I think he was feeling anger.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

oh that poor little lamb.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Throwing a cell phone is something an enraged teenager would do.

So why did a grown male throw it? Seems really stupid.

From my experience, when a man has behaved agressively (fighting words), then stands up and at close range throws anything into/at your face, that is the first step of a physical attack and he is seeking an advantage by distractiing you or possibly potentially obscuring your vision. If the elderly man was indeed intimidated/scared by the younger man as he claims...then shooting was justified. Clearly, the dead man had committed a felony at this point...and under Florida law, the elderly man had every right to defend himself with deadly force. He had no obligation to wait and be struck again...harder...as the situation was obviously escalating quickly.

[gtc]

Originally Posted by fintstone

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He had no obligation to wait and be struck again...harder...as the situation was obviously escalating quickly.

Yeah, it might have been M&Ms or, *gasp* a Rolo, next!

[fintstone]

I guess that is why your mommy taught you not to hit people. Although that old man appeared to be an easy target for a bully...obviously the old man was prepared to defend himself....and had no way of knowing that the younger man moving in and striking him (both with his phone and then the popcorn) was not a prelude to additional violence (and it may have been...we will never know). The old man may have just saved his life by shooting the agitated and aggressive younger man.

[speeder]

Right...I believe you.

[Tobra]

Every single fight I have ever been in, the person threw something in my face right before they threw the first punch. Small sample size, but smart tactics

[fintstone]

Speeder
Hey...I don't know what would have happened...neither do you. All we know is that if the old man felt threatened...he had every right to defend himself by law. He has said all along he did feel threatened. How can you prove he did not beyond reasonable doubt.... Unless he confesses to feeling otherwise!

Tobra
Seen it many times...precedes the cheap shot to the face.

[onewhippedpuppy]

You guys realize you've been having the same argument for 40 pages, right? By this point you can just copy/paste.....

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

You guys realize you've been having the same argument for 40 pages, right? By this point you can just copy/paste.....

Lets see if we can get another 10 pages out of them.

[speeder]

Let me tell you a little something about calling yoked 70 y.o. ex-cops "elderly" and suggestion that they are defenseless, etc...

One of the gnarliest looking guys I've ever seen is the father of a friend. He's at least 70, his son is well into his 40s. The funny thing is, the son is not scary, normal looking dude. The dad is absolutely huge, like NFL size, and seemed to be in excellent shape. When he shook my hand, I felt like a little kid shaking the grown-up's hand, and I have larger than average hands. He could kill someone with his bare hands...no doubt.

My late uncle Pat, who was a cop for 30 years, could punch through cement when he was young and you would not want to try him @ 70.

This cowardly POS in the movie theatre was not frail by any stretch and it's a convenient use of stereotype to paint him as such. He was and still is a brute.

Lay off with the ageism, what are you-his lawyer?

[onewhippedpuppy]

The Denis solution:

[speeder]

I would have beat that popcorn boy like a rented donkey. But it never would have gone that far, I would have changed seats. Life is too short.

[fintstone]

By definition and Florida law, he is elderly...and protected.

Generally folks in their 70s are quite a bit slower and not quite as strong or as healthy as when they were 40...but if it is otherwise in CA...you should probably pass that on to your board of tourism as that would sure attract some oldsters.