FL Retired cop, shoots texting wanker

[VaSteve]

Originally Posted by foxpaws

Sorry, missed it - what was it about?

Link to the post

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/7861260-post676.html

[70SATMan]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

What if the texter threw the cell phone instead? Still not heavy, but wouldn't want to get hit with one thrown in anger.

Agreed... Obviously common sense should prevail. One knows if they are throwing an ax at a person it is with a "violent intent" to do physical harm.

Who in their right mind thinks that they are going to violently hurt someone by throwing popcorn?

I don't see the intent by the texter.

[fintstone]

I have had folks train me to shoot at targets. They were not operational folks and knew no more about shooting other folks or the law than the guy that made me lunch.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

Your statement to me was that Foxy kicked my arse in every exchange she had with me. You didn't say it was your opinion that she had, you declared it as fact.

I challenged you on it because I knew you could not back it up. Likewise on your new claim re: "fool" and "attacking."

You still can't back up how she kicked my arse.

So now you're trying to weasel out another way... by saying it was merely your opinion.

But you embarrass yourself even more by not realizing that any person's opinion is worthless if he/she can't show why they hold that the opinion.

So, you got nothing.

Your opinion is worth nothing.

It's apparently worth nothing to you also, because you won't even attempt to defend it.



The thread was circling... very repetitive arguments following on faulty premises and/or people forgetting ground that had already been covered and people's points were rehatching themselves over and over and over.

I was also trying to bring some much-needed comic relief into the thread at the same time. Duck Season. A Bentley doing doughnuts. Reprehensible behavior, huh?

If you or a couple of others didn't get or enjoy the humor, maybe you were offended that it showed that there are those here who can't seem to accept the fact that much of the responsibility for what happened in that theatre rests with texter dude.

Personal responsibility. A simple, yet elusive concept to some of you.



I'm guessing that's your opinion (The only one who should be embarrassed... haven't a clue), so I'll regard it as such. Worthless and just another way for you to attack me. That's fine... it shows your desperation to claim something here as you continue to find ways to look bad.

You would do well to learn a few basics on debating and what logic actually is, because you're operating by winging it and it's not working for you.

And of course it's a horrible incident. If you'd take a few minutes to peruse this thread, you'll see that I fully realize that and have made plenty of serious and substantive posts that you seem to forget while you focus on those you've cherry picked to criticize.



Well, other than the fact that Florida law may have something to say about all that, you're circling again.

You are the man, EMJ... hope you have enjoyed the ride thus far.

I could care less what you think of my opinion. You're still a troll.

[fintstone]

As I posted before...this was not stated by a witness.. But deduced by local LE enjoying the spotlight and declaring their heroism of disarming a guy who sat down and put his gun on his lap.

An argument broke out between the couples, after which Reeves reportedly took out a gun and fired at Oulson and his wife. Officials said Nicole tried to block the bullet, resulting in a gunshot wound to her hand, before Chad was struck.

(Figured it out from Channel 10 Tampa )

[foxpaws]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

No excuses for either of these stupid people ending their stupid lives, BUT, everytime I have seen people who are argumentative the wives/girlfriends are usually tying to ease the situation. Not stick their hands in front of a real gun, Daffy Duck style.

Again, dark theater. The dude that got shot didn't even know he got shot. Maybe didn't see the gun.

As I said - I think she was trying to push her husband out of the way of the drawn weapon - but, that is speculation - you would need her testimony to know what she was doing, and I don't believe she has talked to anyone except the police at this point, and that hasn't been released to the press.

Again - I also believe that the theater wasn't to full dark - I believe it was in seating lighting (again, not positive, but it appeared that the witnesses were able to see what was going on).

I believe the texter stated "I can't believe I got shot", not necessarily indicating he didn't know he got shot, could be that it indicated he couldn't believe he got shot over this minor incident.

[widebody911]

I think there is a certain demographic that wants more cases like this and the GZ case, so they can fulfill their Soldier of Fortune fantasies of just shooting people whenever they feel like it. "She was double parked, I had to shoot her!" "Ok, case dismissed"

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

Interesting you didn't reveal your background early on. It would have given your words more credibility than a ranting internet poster.

It's called debate, hardly ranting, and qualifications aren't needed for opinions. That's why it isn't good to assume...

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by EMJ

I could care less what you think of my opinion. You're still a troll.

You think I care that you claim you don't care? Bwahahaha.

Another empty claim... plus, you're probably lying that you don't care.

I can fully understand why you're so grumpy about the way this has gone.

You've been shown up as a person who makes worthless, empty statements they can't back up and who runs away from being challenged on them.

Why would you not be grumpy?

Did you vote for the Big Zero-in-Chief also? A lot of people are very grumpy about how poorly he's doing and it seems to be carrying over into other areas of their lives.

[fintstone]

Widebody
I think that most folks that have been in life or death situations realize how fast they happen...and how they often look much different in the light of day when all the armchair quarterbacks are recalling the plays.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

Hilarious.

Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have discovered the big, badazz BOSSMAN of this thread.



Be afraid.

Be very afraid.

Troll with nothing meaningful to contribute. Some might even call what you're doing bullying. Which is funny because you appear to support the killer of the so called bully in this case.

[70SATMan]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

Spitting at someone qualifies as assault...What's your point?

Some may not feel that it qualifies, but it is what it is.

I clearly stated "Felony" assault. There are many layers of severity when discussing Assault and Battery. Typically you don't get into the felony area until you hit "aggrevated".

Fint for example is basing the cops response on the presumption of the popcorn throwing being a felony assault... The clear intent to cause bodily harm.

Using Fint's broad brush, he would support the same reaction if the cop had been spit upon.

Would you consider a cop in the line of duty shooting an individual because he was spit upon the use of excessive force?

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by EMJ

Troll with nothing meaningful to contribute. Some might even call what you're doing bullying. Which is funny because you appear to support the killer of the so called bully in this case.

More empty claims. Thanks for that.

When there is substantial new information here that I want to discuss and "contribute to," I will.

Until then, you're laughable again and have no standing calling me a bully when it's demonstrable that you want to be the big, badazz BOSSMAN here.

Originally Posted by EMJ

As you are now. Give it a rest.

[fintstone]

EMJ
What would you expect after your insulting remark to him regarding Foxpaws...friendly agreement?

[70SATMan]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Tell you what. You go get into a verbal huff with a cop and throw popcorn at him. If you come out of it with a minor misdemeanor conviction, I'll pledge to take up a collection and pay the fine for you.

There are specifc laws addressing assault upon a LEO that differs from what would be applied if I threw popcorn at you Rick.

Your example is irrelevant.

[fintstone]

SAtman
Try it with a senior citizen in front of most LEOs in FL. They are a protected group (by law).

As I stated earlier, the law is different regarding what constitutes assault on a senior citizen in FL.

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by EMJ

No, he was angry and was going to show this punk who he was messing with. He was a SWAT team guy. Popcorn flying at him wouldn't scare this guy.

Yeah, back this claim up.

You just KNOW this, don't you?

Hilarious.

[URY914]

If he had only just shot him in the back of the head when he saw him texting to begin with. It would have saved us a lot of typing.

[70SATMan]

Originally Posted by fintstone

SAtman
Try it with a senior citizen in front of most LEOs in FL. They are a protected group (by law).

In the same manner as hate crimes, typically to address the specific targeting of senior citizens.

In your own words, the guy looks like he is 60.

[fintstone]

But he is not 60...and is protected by law.