Hemi

[sammyg2]

http://www.keithblack.com/history.html

[Rednine11]

Its amazing to me what these cars are SUPPOSE to be worth these days. I didnt say they ARE ......
High Book 323,510

[Rednine11]

Thanks to SammyG2, Speeder and MattDavis11 for the compliments on my car. I really appreciate it
I've had the old girl since 1989. was my daily driver.
I'm kind of the Hemi go to guy around where I live.

[Rednine11]

Listen to Landy's Hemi
I was there watching this when this video was made

dick landy.wmv - YouTube

[Rednine11]

One more
if someone knows how to properly setup a 426 its just a little bit faster than a well setup 944

one badass gearshift hemi cuda - YouTube

[mattdavis11]

I hope not to intrude with no experience as an owner, but I would love to have a hemi motor, but alas only have stories for now.

Several years back my brother invited me to a crawfish boil, it was more of a house warming party for the owners' workshop. He was Chrysler through and through.

He had a 70 Charger, 528 KB block, high rise single plane intake with Indy heads. No idea on the CFM, but single carb, pump gas is what I recall. The body was crinkled in the rear from the torque it could lay down.

He had a few other mopars that were impressive, I might have spied an RB 383 in the corner, but couldn't be sure. It was probably a 400.

[Adam]

Damn, those videos are badass.

Jealous as hell of your Challenger! I bet it's a blast to drive.

While I totally understand you not driving it much, it's sad. While I've been putting plenty of miles on my Road Runner since it arrived down here, she's going in on Friday for a full tune and to get the auto's kickdowns all sorted out (upshifts to 2nd wayyyy too early for me). I drove it to work for the first week I owned it... 6mpg and all.

[Rednine11]

Thanks everyone
There are NO 426's in this crowd
all 331. 354 or 392 baby whale hemis
listen to Don's 392 on nitro
CackleFest 2010 with Don Garlits at NHRR.mov - YouTube

[nota]

dad had a hk500 fascel with a 392 1958 in about 63
he got it locally for 1k and it was in nice shape and ran good
two years later traded for a 62 fascel2 with a 413 wedge for +3k
my eye doc had a hk500 with 392 with dual carbs and a french 4 speed

a buddy had a 69 hemi cuda in 69 he got it on a take over the payments deal
after the buyers ins payments went nuts from tickets

[Rednine11]

had a 70 Charger 440 six pack
wife had a 70 Cuda 340 4 speed
then I got into Hemis
it changed my world
there are a couple guys on the board that know more about 426's than me
I cant remember who they are but we're all out there ......
maybe I need to start a support group

[Rednine11]

sorry repost

[speeder]

When I was a little boy in the '60s, totally car-crazy, we had a neighbor with a '66 Hemi Satelite. I can remember it like it was yesterday, super clean maroon 2-door HT. It was a sleeper with stock wheel covers on steel wheels and just the small "Hemi" badges on the front fenders or doors(?)

Anyhow, he got in some trouble one night coming home late at night when he nailed it coming up the hill on 49th and Penn, for Mpls. locals. The car got loose and he tagged a parked car, not too bad but enough to get the young guy in trouble. It had headers and small mufflers, god did it sound amazing.

I grew up reading Hot Rod magazine and I swear I remember every Kieth Black or Smokey Yunick article I ever read. This is truly a disease.

[billybek]

It's threads like this that keep me coming back here.
I bet you never have to worry about those back tires becoming too old to drive on, Rednine.
Great pics. Got more?

[Rednine11]

I will post more pics
Listen to this 426 get all pissed off when they start feeding it nitromethane at about 1:50

Daily and Johnsons Nitro Methane blown 426. - YouTube

[sammyg2]

I've been told this by some very knowledgable people so i consider it accurate:

The street 426 hemi was problematic in stock form, because they had to de-tune it so much to make it tame. With the mild cam ald lower compression and steetable carb it could be a pain to keep in tune, so some folks say the 440 six pack could keep up with it. (I don't buy that).
BUT ....... with a little more aggressive cam and a few tweaks here and there, that choked down street hemi could come to life and regain its position on the top of the heap.

There was a show on speed channel back in 2005 where they took supposedly stock examples of all the famous muscle car motors and put them on a dyno one by one.
The only mods allowed were headers, a different cam, changes to ignition timing and jetting. Everything else had to be stock.

The hemi was last and IIRC, dyno'd at over 700 hp.
There was quite a bit of controversy about that as it turned out it was actually a race hemi with higher compression etc.
Still made for good tele-bision.

[sammyg2]

Oops, LOL it was 820 hp.

Here's some more info from the guy who built it:

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In American Muscle Car episode 'The Fastest Musclecar Engines of All Time', a 1966 Dodge street Hemi engine, built and tuned under the factory stock condition, produced 820 HP and 689ft·lb of torque...at least this is what Hemi supporters would like to be carved into stone as gospel truth. In actual fact, Darren Tedder who works at Engine Systems in Tucker Georgia, and who worked with the producers of the show had this to say about the episode:

We built 3 motors for the show titled “the fastest muscle car engines of all time”. We did an L88 Chevy, a 427 tunnel port FE Ford, and a 426 HEMI for them to dyno test. The motors were to have things done to them that would have been done by places like Yenko, Mr Norms, and so on. I have no idea what kind of spin will be put on this show, but I can assure all you guys that MOPAR will be properly represented. Though the Hemi is a pump gas motor, it may have a couple more twists of the wrench than the others, but don’t tell any of the Chevy or Ford brethren. Everything had to be put together from the parts we had available. The end result should please all you guys. Yes that motor has more work in it than it should, but we used what we had at the shop for motors in progress. (note: a 500 cubic inch short block was in the shop at the time...) Remember television is for entertainment, much like the internet, so don't read too much into it. Also, it's not like it was a secret kept from the production. I worked most of my life in underwater production. Every thing I've ever shot has had some unrealistic spin put on it by, post production, or an executive in the production. Unfortunately in most cases (not saying this is the case here) the people in post don't know the first thing about the subject matter. It's just a fact of TV. Two of the most discrediting things said about anything are: I saw it on TV, or read it on the internet. Enjoy it for what is, have a good laugh, and be glad YOU guys know something the VAST majority of viewers don't.

[Rednine11]

more pix as requested.

[Adam]

Goddamn, that thing is beautiful.

I have to ask: do you trust those hose-clamp spring things?

I had them on every hose, all over my 440 and it kept blowing the supply hose off the heater control valve, dumping all coolant. However, first I'd know of it was at the traffic lights, when it blew steam. Basically, they'd lose their spring. I didn't trust them moving forward, as it blew this hose off 4 times in one week, completely draining the cooling system each time. Cost me a fortune in new coolant each time and a pain in the ass to bleed the system on the side of the road etc. I removed them all and replaced with worm-type clamps - less original, but they hold.

[Rednine11]

Thanks Adam
No I'm really not crazy about the hose clamps either but they are what Mopar used in the day so I'll use them to keep it fairly close to original.
I always keep an extra Voltage Regulator and Ballast Resistor in the glove box too.
that is the two most common failures.
If you noticed the valve covers are taller than original stamped steel ones.
The cam has so much lift the rocker arms hit the inside of the steel ones on the engine stand when it was rolled over by hand. rather than "adjust" the OEM parts I just got a taller set from Barton to allow for higher lift cams.

[sammyg2]

I have a jones for blower surge and hemis do it the best. My boat idled about like this thing, going from 400 to 2000 and back.
Not real streetable tho, and not as cool as near stock.