777 down

[scottbombedout]

We made a mistake. EVERYBODY 600 MILES WEST!!!!!

We mean east, no ermmm south. Yeah everybody 500 miles south!

This has become a total embarrassment.

[AFC-911]

They're never going to find it. That ****'s gone.

[widgeon13]

Better luck with a ouija board!

[Aurel]

Batteries in the black boxes will be dead soon...

[afterburn 549]

Originally Posted by Aurel

Batteries in the black boxes will be dead soon...

that is the whole idea......I do not think they want to find it....

maybe they shot it dwn.
maybe its on the hard with prisoner negations
Or a 1000 other reasons.

[varmint]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

They're never going to find it. That ****'s gone.

"never"?


they found the titanic eventually. of course it was bigger, in shallower water, and they had a better idea where it went down. only took seventy years.

[porwolf]

What about the automatic pilot break down on a Maylasia 777 in 2005?

Investigation: 200503722 - In-flight upset; Boeing 777-200, 9M-MRG, 240 km NW Perth, WA

I have seen a CNN expert discussion about that incident. In 2005 the pilots were able to get control of the plane by going manual. But that may not always be possible if the pilots are not sufficiently trained to deal with sudden, catastrophic, malfunctions of the automatic pilot.

Then there was the Boeing warning about a fuselage structural problem at the satellite antenna that could lead to sudden decompression, 5 months ago:

Malaysia Airlines mystery: US issued warnings over Boeing 777 'weak spot' - Telegraph

What are this boards experts opinions on this information?

[JJ 911SC]

Originally Posted by Aurel

Batteries in the black boxes will be dead soon...

Just like my gas gauge on my MKX (on which I end up driving miles after it tell me that there is 0 miles left), the batteries always last longer.

The thing to watch right now is the "Navy" showing up with a small sonar at the last minutes and will miraculously find the box with minutes to spare...

[recycled sixtie]

I think that focus should be put on the pilots' voices and particularly the last signoff to air traffic control. The copilot's voice should be confirmed as being his or a possible intruder. There are lots of other captains that flew with that copilot to see if that was his voice or not. This could confirm if a hijacking had taken place or not. Just a thought.....

[Cajundaddy]

Originally Posted by porwolf

What about the automatic pilot break down on a Maylasia 777 in 2005?

Investigation: 200503722 - In-flight upset; Boeing 777-200, 9M-MRG, 240 km NW Perth, WA

I have seen a CNN expert discussion about that incident. In 2005 the pilots were able to get control of the plane by going manual. But that may not always be possible if the pilots are not sufficiently trained to deal with sudden, catastrophic, malfunctions of the automatic pilot.

Then there was the Boeing warning about a fuselage structural problem at the satellite antenna that could lead to sudden decompression, 5 months ago:

Malaysia Airlines mystery: US issued warnings over Boeing 777 'weak spot' - Telegraph

What are this boards experts opinions on this information?

Hehe,
I don't think we have any expert NTSB accident investigators here wolf, just a bunch of guys with various aviation experiences in a lot of different fields including private, commercial, and military, pondering the sheer absence of information on flt 370. Since we know almost nothing, everything is still on the table and nothing can be ruled out yet. When looking at possible causes, I always ask "Does this match the timeline of events we do know?" A bonkers autopilot and structural weakness warning are not a very good match to the events that have been presented so far but... we really don't know so we can't rule it out.

[recycled sixtie]

Originally Posted by porwolf

What about the automatic pilot break down on a Maylasia 777 in 2005?

Investigation: 200503722 - In-flight upset; Boeing 777-200, 9M-MRG, 240 km NW Perth, WA

I have seen a CNN expert discussion about that incident. In 2005 the pilots were able to get control of the plane by going manual. But that may not always be possible if the pilots are not sufficiently trained to deal with sudden, catastrophic, malfunctions of the automatic pilot.

Then there was the Boeing warning about a fuselage structural problem at the satellite antenna that could lead to sudden decompression, 5 months ago:

Malaysia Airlines mystery: US issued warnings over Boeing 777 'weak spot' - Telegraph

What are this boards experts opinions on this information?

Autopilot failure? There should be warning lights to indicate this. Corrective action can be made by the pilots.
Structural failure? Can lead to decompression and pilots can correct for that.
Too much structural failure and aircraft can get out of control beyond pilots' capabilities.

[porwolf]

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie

Autopilot failure? There should be warning lights to indicate this. Corrective action can be made by the pilots...............

In the CNN discussion the question was raised how well the pilots are trained in all possible auto pilot break downs, no matter how extreme and how little time is left for correction. What is the pilot training procedure for Malaysia pilots, and what is the record of the MH370 crew training hours?

[Cajundaddy]

Originally Posted by porwolf

In the CNN discussion the question was raised how well the pilots are trained in all possible auto pilot break downs, no matter how extreme and how little time is left for correction. What is the pilot training procedure for Malaysia pilots, and what is the record of the MH370 crew training hours?

You mean like pressing the "auto pilot off" switch and taking the yoke to level the plane? Asiana airline clearly had trouble with that maneuver when landing at SFO but this was straight, level flight at altitude.

This gives you a look at the cockpit. We don't know if this TV news simulated flight re-creation is accurate.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22235213/flight-recreated-in-777-simulator/

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy

Hehe,... pondering the sheer absence of information on flt 370. Since we know almost nothing, everything is still on the table and nothing can be ruled out yet....When looking at possible causes, I always ask "Does this match the timeline of events we do know?"...

Just what do we know?

Malaysian authorities just announced that the final words recorded in the cockpit were not, "Goodnight. All right." The latest "fact" is the final words were, "Goodnight. Malaysian 370."

Three weeks later, a complete change. Why isn't the transcript and audio available? No wonder everything out of the mouth of the authorities has zero credibility.

[fingpilot]

What everyone seems to forget is that what happened is EXACTLY what was SUPPOSED to happen.

The Captain wanted to embarrass the Malaysian Government that had stolen the last 20-something elections, and had convicted and sentenced the leader of his opposition party of sodomy the day before the flight.

He accomplished the perfect plan. The INMARSAT pinger (that he did not know was there, installed by Boeing when the airframe was a white tail), was for datalink system MAS never bought. He was not trained on a system that was not installed, so disabling it was not on his list.

It is the perfect crime. Imagine if INMARSAT had not stepped up.....

[intakexhaust]

^ So its the pilot against 'them' theory. I'm still not convinced. Scapegoat perhaps. What's Malaysia gov. controlled air transport covering up? Why the slow, lack of or muddy information? They call the FBI for help but then I hear the FBI on CNN stating Maylay hasn't provided all they've ask for. They still haven't provided an exact detailed timeline of events. The timeline provided has changed a few times already, so who do you trust?

[Sunroof]

I am still into the debris field............................"found orange debris"... I would imagine this gives up hope of life rafts, door slides, even vests, but NO!!!!!! The orange stuff was not related to the aircraft. So the green stuff and blue stuff and now orange stuff is ocean flotsam. Nothing more.

What the heck are they pulling here?

[Bill Douglas]

Then crashed the plane.

[dewolf]

[widgeon13]

Their taking the ping detector to the site!
















Wait for it,





April fools!