777 down

[GWN7]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Not really.

SOSUS is/was a passive acoustic sensor: SOSUS is a listening device and subject to the same limitation all passive arrays are, the physics of sound propagation in water.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/issue_25/sosus.htm

Trust me I'm not trying to wear you guys out concerning ASW (which the passive phase of the search for the ping from the 777 really was), but I did it for many years as part of my job flying SH-60's.

I am, frankly, looking into the Penguin Bombers...

Well I consider a great range to be over 1,000 miles and as the old system was able to triangulate the single bang from the Soviet K-129 when it sank and that was some 1,500 miles from Hawaii I guess the system does in fact work at long distances.

"The combination of location within the ocean and the sensitivity of arrays allowed the system to detect acoustic power of less than a watt at ranges of several hundred kilometres (The system is so sensitive that it can even detect the presence of Soviet/Russian Tu-95 Bear 4-engine bombers flying overhead"

This was from a system that was originally designed in the 1950's.

Whatever name you give it, SOSUS or any of the upgrades IUSS, SOFAR, ARTEMIS or whatever it is being called now the system seems to work.

If in the 1960's they could track a ship crossing the Atlantic ocean underwater "In 1961, SOSUS tracked the Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) submarine USS George Washington (SSBN-598) from the US to the UK." This was with paper graph printouts. Imagine what they could do with the current processing power and abilities. They could be able to ID a ship by hull design and propeller. The computers could be able to ID known ships (build a data base of every ship sailing the ocean) and while tracking those ships eliminate their noise signal to allow them to ID and track any new noises/threats.

Not saying you didn't do your job to the best of your abilities, but maybe all the information is/was a few levels above your pay grade.

Dolphins with lasers on their heads would take care of the Penguin bombers.

[450knotOffice]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

so for all those "they are gonna nuke us with it" conspiracy nutcases .... wheres the nuke?

Originally Posted by trekkor

It's posts like this that prove exactly what type of a person you really are.

Let's say that an attack comes of this, just for the sake of the argument.
You'll post:

"My bad... LOL", right?

I find you to be selfish and uncaring in your presentations.
It disgusts me.

Trekkor, so let me get this straight. If I were to say that MAYBE, just MAYBE, the moon will drop out of orbit in about six months and smash us all to smithereens, and nearly everyone laughs uncontrollably at me for being a nutcase...and then IT HAPPENS, and then you all say "Our bad...LOL", I can consider you all selfish and uncaring? Hmm. Ok.

The reality is, ANYTHING is possible. However certain things are so nearly out of the realm of plausible, that their mere mention can, and should, garner some light hearted ridicule and big eye rolls among most reasonably sane people.

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

...... among most reasonably sane people.

I wonder the personal attack rules as applied to PARF also apply in OT. In the PARF, Trekkors out of context, unjustified and personal attack would get a person banned.

I can only think that perhaps Cocker ran over Trekkor's dog.

[70SATMan]

The rules are supposed to be applied equally.. Parf is a sub forum of off topic after all.

[afterburn 549]

wow you guys can turn everything into a piss in the wind contest.
There is no room for logical discussion here anymore.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by GWN7

As to military radar, I'm pretty sure that since December 7th, 1941 all military radar is manned 24/7 just in case the penguins decide to march.

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I am, frankly, looking into the Penguin Bombers...

holy crap - independent corroboration of the PenguinBombers™. We're doomed...DOOMED!!!

[stealthn]

Can someone PLEASE teach CNN the meaning of the phrase "breaking news"...

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

wow you guys can turn everything into a piss in the wind contest.
There is no room for logical discussion here anymore.

If youre not writing comedy, its a criminal waste.

And in the meantime, unknown fiends are gas axing up a 777, and tying small pieces of it to monkeys to distribute over hundreds of sq miles of jungle.

The real question in my mind is: are the monkeys in on it?

[lane912]

breaking news!!!!------

reports are coming into the CNN news center that most men fart on their partners when sleeping---

[450knotOffice]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

wow you guys can turn everything into a piss in the wind contest.
There is no room for logical discussion here anymore.

Absolutely there is. We are actually trying to be logical. Logic says this plane is almost certainly lost at sea, caused by a tragic "fate is the hunter" type of accident. If you are not aware of the reference, look it up online.

I happen to be an experienced airline pilot (with AA) and just don't buy into any other more sinister explanation at this point. If evidence begins to show to the contrary, then I'll consider it. Right now, nothing I've read or heard points me to any other conclusion beyond the it-was-an-accident scenario.

[afterburn 549]

No matter who you are you are just guessing.
My guess is completely different.
I will consider your guess mostly correct if they find most the plane in mostly one place.

[nostatic]

Originally Posted by stuartj

The real question in my mind is: are the monkeys in on it?

If the monkeys are in cahoots with the penguins, we're doubly screwed...

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by nostatic

holy crap - independent corroboration of the PenguinBombers™. We're doomed...DOOMED!!!

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Which bowing jet has the known hydraulic problem of rudder going full tilt the opposite of peddle input?

Bowing built the PenguinBombers!
There is no known hydraulic problem!
The PenguinPilots short legs can't reach the rudder pedals!
Bowing screwed up!
Bowing built the PenguinBombers to be flown by Flamingos!
The contract should have been given to Boing!
Or Boeing, even!

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by DARISC

Bowing built the PenguinBombers!
There is no known hydraulic problem!
The PenguinPilots short legs can't reach the rudder pedals!
Bowing screwed up!
Bowing built the PenguinBombers to be flown by Flamingos!
The contract should have been given to Boing!
Or Boeing, even!

Just remember what pilots say. "If its not Bowing, Boing or Boeing, I'm not going."

[Outback Porsche]

I had boiing once.

That's the sound your swollen nads make when they hit your legs with every step during a bad bout of crutch rot.

[GWN7]

In the Madagascar movies it's the Penguins that fly the planes and the monkeys are their unwitting helpers. As these are a DreamWorks production (Disney) maybe we should ask Hugh what he knows?

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by stuartj

"If its not Bowing, Boing or Boeing, I'm not going."

If it's a Bowing PenguinBomber, I'm not going if it's piloted by penguins rather than properly trained flamingo pilots!

I've never heard of one of those PenguinBombers going down in flamingos.

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

No matter who you are you are just guessing.
My guess is completely different.
I will consider your guess mostly correct if they find most the plane in mostly one place.

Except for the small detail that so far, the evidence as known supports 450knots POV, and there is no evidence at all to support yours.

Ofcourse if you discount all evidence- as you regularly demonstrate- you're quite right. Your opinion is worth the same as his.

[trekkor]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

I can consider you all selfish and uncaring?

My comment was clearly an observation of someone on here that I have had a frustrating history with. After seeing nothing but rude comments that are mostly designed to rile people up, I decided to tell him how I feel.

Maybe it was wrong?

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by nostatic

If the monkeys are in cahoots with the penguins, we're doubly screwed...

It's worse than you think...