Killing Coyotes

[vash]

Originally Posted by Craig T

I see you're in SoCal. If you see the varmint regularly, in all seriousness I'll bring Tank over. I've done it for my neighbors. PM me.

He's killed two now and absolutely hates them. If we slow the coyote up with a CB sub-sonic, Tank can catch him. The neighbors and authorities don't need to know a thing. …The 3-S rule (Shoot, shovel, and shut up).

My neighbors threw a birthday party for the 5 year-old. In the middle of the party a coyote jumped the wall and grabbed their maltese, then went back over the wall with the dog in it's mouth. The kids were horrified. I now have ZERO sympathy for coyotes.

that is TANK killing a yote?!!! amazing photo!!

[rusnak]

I think a .22 will need a follow up shot from a larger caliber to finish him off.

I'd definitely not put out snares unless you want your dog to be Purina Coyote Chow.

[Arthropraxis]

I was told by an old country guy that he hangs a shark hook by a wire about 3ft off of the ground with Vienna sausage as bait. Cruel but effective.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by vash

that is TANK killing a yote?!!! amazing photo!!

He shakes them so violently you can hear bones breaking. If he sees a coyote on a walk, it would take three NFL linebackers holding the leash to stop him. He is absolutely obedient to me, but listens to body else. Boerboels are not for the timid dog owner.

Here's a close up after he quit shaking it. The pic second pic is after he tree'd a bobcat.

[Jeff Higgins]

I used to have one hell of a good time hunting coyotes in Eastern Washington, and I was able to make a fair bit change off the deal as well. We used to get anywhere from $50 to $150 a pelt for the darn things. I think a guy would be lucky to see $10-$20 today.

We used to use simple little mouth-blown calls like the two shown below. These are your classic "dying rabbit" calls. The black, bulb shaped one is just like a squeaky toy - you squeeze it to make it squeal. We would tape these to the forearm of our rifles and use them if any 'yotes were getting in real close. While there were early, somewhat crude electronic calls available back then, we always thought that was cheating.



I started out shooting them with my old M70 '06, loaded with 110 grain bullets. I soon got tired of patching hides from the exit wounds, and Remington came out with their saboted .22 caliber bullets in '06 cases - the Remington Accelerator round. I used those for awhile, and they worked great, but this looked like a good excuse for another rifle...

So I bought a Ruger #1 in .220 Swift. I used that for years, until I shot the throat out of the original barrel. It loved 53 grain Sierras and Reloder 15, approaching 4,000 fps with that combination. After the barrel was shot out to the point I could no longer seat bullets out far enough to almost touch the rifling, it sat for a couple of years. Then, on our 10th anniversary, my lovely wife (no doubt with a bit of input from some shooting buddies) stole it and had Rick Freudenburg re-barrel it with a 28" stainless 1:12" twist Lilja barrel. That's how it remains today. Its new favorite load includes the 60 grain V-Max over a case full of IMR4350, for about 3,750 fps. Absolute death on coyotes as far away as you can make them out.



So, Hugh, I believe Remington still makes that Accelerator load in a number of calibers, including .30-30. Might be just the ticket to "reach out and touch someone" if they start getting shy and staying out of .30-30 range.

[Taz's Master]

Originally Posted by Eric 951

I'll echo Craig's suggestion--shoot and shovel. No reason to call warden after dispatching them. Coyotes are cunning and a menace--every year we shoot several off our property.

Just FYI. I asked a PA Game Commissioner about shooting a coyote if it threatened my dogs on a walk. He said you can shoot wildlife in defense of self or property, so yes you can shoot a coyote to protect your pet. But a shooting in self defense requires an investigation. However you can hunt coyotes 24-7, and do not need to wear orange. So as long as you carry a hunting license (can carry in your wallet) and shoot with a legal firearm (no semi-auto pistols or rifles), you're hunting, and it is ok to shoot a coyote and not notify the Game Commission.

[vash]

Craig..i just googled that breed. AMAZING!!

i think my good friend, a Mastiff (english?) guy was talking about this breed. he described TANK perfectly.

if i ever get a ranch property of my dreams, i am getting one of those!!

[GWN7]

Out where my other house is if you don't shoot them you are a bad neighbour (cattle country). Destructive little beasts. If they have targeted your dog they will keep at it till they get him. Pick up a rabbit call and one of these: Sharpshooter Blind, Realtree Xtra - Walmart.com

Go set up where you have a clear view around you and hammer them.

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I used to have one hell of a good time hunting coyotes in Eastern Washington, and I was able to make a fair bit change off the deal as well. We used to get anywhere from $50 to $150 a pelt for the darn things. I think a guy would be lucky to see $10-$20 today.

I've heard of the guys in SD getting something like $50-$75 for them still.

[GWN7]

Colorado Fur auction

Coyote – $40.74 average, with 1614 sold.

February 2015

[Hugh R]

I'm not a big gun guy, although I own a few, and right now I'm traveling for work, so I couldn't tell you squat about grains, loads,etc. I inherited the 30-30 lever action Marlin. It has a pretty well dialed in scope, and has a kick like a mule, and I'm sure it will do the job.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

I've heard of the guys in SD getting something like $50-$75 for them still.

Originally Posted by GWN7

Colorado Fur auction

Coyote – $40.74 average, with 1614 sold.

February 2015

Wow - that's come way up from when I quit. I think they bottomed out at ten bucks apiece for awhile. Hardly worth the effort.

Originally Posted by Hugh R

I'm not a big gun guy, although I own a few, and right now I'm traveling for work, so I couldn't tell you squat about grains, loads,etc. I inherited the 30-30 lever action Marlin. It has a pretty well dialed in scope, and has a kick like a mule, and I'm sure it will do the job.

It will absolutely do the job. Keep using whatever it's sighted in for and you will be fine. Coyotes do, however, wise up pretty damn fast once you've decked a few of their buddies. .30-30's are not known for their flat trajectories, and coyotes are smaller than they look from backbone to brisket, so they can be deceptively hard to hit with a round like this. Granted, they are also smart enough to stay away once said buddies get whacked, so maybe dumping a couple will get your point across.

[GH85Carrera]

A friend of mine lives out of town on a 1/4 section ranch. He raises Longhorns as a hobby. He has a few horses as well. He is far enough out the the low life city folks dump off unwanted dogs and cats. He get them spayed or neutered and feeds them has shelters for lots of dogs. On occasion he hears a lot of ruckus and it is usually a coyote. He goes to the attic window with his 270 and waits. After a few dead yotes that pack moves on.

[HardDrive]

.22 will kill a yote, but you need to knock them down with an accurate head shot, then polish them off. If one looks at crime statistics, a surprisingly large number of people killed with firearms are killed with .22s. It doesn't have the knock down power of a center fire rifle, but it still will put a hole in you. Given that we are basically a big bag of water, holes ain't good.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

.22 will kill a yote, but you need to knock them down with an accurate head shot, then polish them off. If one looks at crime statistics, a surprisingly large number of people killed with firearms are killed with .22s. It doesn't have the knock down power of a center fire rifle, but it still will put a hole in you. Given that we are basically a big bag of water, holes ain't good.

Ask JFK if a .22 will kill a coyote.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

.22 will kill a yote, but you need to knock them down with an accurate head shot, then polish them off. If one looks at crime statistics, a surprisingly large number of people killed with firearms are killed with .22s. It doesn't have the knock down power of a center fire rifle, but it still will put a hole in you. Given that we are basically a big bag of water, holes ain't good.

I would respectfully disagree, having shot a number of coyotes with the .22 over the years. Every single one of them has just run off. Granted, maybe they died from the wound some time later - I have no way of knowing. A few, however, were subsequently finished by my partner with whatever he was shooting. Those that were, upon skinning out, showed no more than shallow flesh wounds where hit by the .22. Certainly not lethal wounds by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe at extremely close range, at just the right angle in just the right spot - missing any and all bone, be it the skull or ribs or shoulders or whatever... maybe. I certainly wouldn't count on it, though.

Yes, lots of folks are murdered with .22's. Way different circumstances, though. Lots closer, element of surprise, multiple shots, etc. can all play into it. You'll never get that close to a live coyote, and even if you did, he's not just going to stand there unsuspecting and let you shoot him. Guys do kill them with shotguns, but they are expert callers, well camouflaged, and typically use full choked guns with heavy turkey loads. Even then, they are really stretching the range of that combination.

[rusnak]

As a kid, my choice was the bolt action .22. Still love it, and have it to this day. I would shoot jackrabbits with iron sights over 100' away. Even they would run away before dying. I would not really want to have a dying coyote walking around or with a flesh wound walking around. The preference is to blow him away comic book style, but that is often not the case, since shooting is an opportunistic undertaking. You don't always get a clean head shot either, so you want to make the first hole as big as possible.

[HHI944]

This sounds like a good excuse to buy something in .338LM......I wonder what that round would do to something as small as a coyote??

[KFC911]

I opt for .357 HPs (from a Marlin) over .22lr or more potent (30-30 et al) and my tenant chooses .45LC (lever) over everything else in his POTENT arsenal. Got to be quick & clean and shots are typically less than 50yds or so. Is that "my" best optiion? Noise doesn't matter...

[Holger]

Wow, three pages discussing weapons over this.

Get the fence repaired?