orlando shooting.....

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by techweenie

The big picture is that "Christians" are responsible for a proportionate share of violence here in the US. Are you sill welcoming them?

Oh, and the statement was from George Bush in 2002...

is obtuse something they teach nowadays?

you're smarter than that and we both know it.

[techweenie]

Try to get your emotions out of it and look at the statistics.

[red-beard]

Tech: The stats show that as Gun sales have gone up, crime has gone down (1990 to now).

While there may not be a correlation between the two, it does show that there is no causation of more guns means more crime.

FBI Crime stats

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-politics-religion/918165-reinstate-assault-weapons-ban-3.html#post9160742

Gun sales stats

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-politics-religion/918165-reinstate-assault-weapons-ban-3.html#post9160747

[ficke]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

It wouldn't surprise me if he was gay.

That's what I think, a very conflicted, closet gay guy, who's father and religion does not condone his sexuality and released his rage by killing the people who's lifestyle he desired and secretly and not so secretly wanted. By killing them and himself he found favor with his dad saying it was in the name of god.
Just a theory.

[ficke]

Using this Obama/Trump approach of punishing all gun owners and Muslims for the acts of a few crazy people will hurt more people then it will solve anything.
It is the Don Quixote thing of jousting at windmills and really not doing anything but making yourself and followers feel better.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by ficke

That's what I think, a very conflicted, closet gay guy, who's father and religion does not condone his sexuality and released his rage by killing the people who's lifestyle he desired and secretly and not so secretly wanted. By killing them and himself he found favor with his dad saying it was in the name of god.
Just a theory.

Apparently more than a theory.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by ficke

Using this Obama/Trump approach of punishing all gun owners and Muslims for the acts of a few crazy people will hurt more people then it will solve anything.
It is the Don Quixote thing of jousting at windmills and really not doing anything but making yourself and followers feel better.

Intentionally importing 100 unvetted middle easterners each day as we do now really doesn't seem much like a solution either.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by fintstone

Intentionally importing 100 unvetted middle easterners each day as we do now really doesn't seem much like a solution either.

I really doubt allowing middle eastern immigrants into this country is being toted by any one as a solution, your drawing a connection that nobody else has, including me.
If any thing people think not allowing them in is a solution/answer like out lawing 'assault rifles' is a solution/answer.
We could have implemented both those "solutions" and this still would have happed in Orlando.

[ejfbmw]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

I wish I could have donated blood. I'm B neg and there is not always a B neg donor around when you need one.

Donate where you are. That's why you are there

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by ficke

I really doubt allowing middle eastern immigrants into this country is being toted by any one as a solution, your drawing a connection that nobody else has, including me.
If any thing people think not allowing them in is a solution/answer like out lawing 'assault rifles' is a solution/answer.
We could have implemented both those "solutions" and this still would have happed in Orlando.

Obviously we really are not too concerned about Islamic terrorism if they are bringing tens of thousands unvetted immigrants from the worst terrorist area in the world.

While it may not have helped in Orlando, it may have prevented the next one. This was not the first, nor will it be the last.

The real answer was to eliminate ISIS in 2014 when they rolled into Iraq...but they were the "JV team". Our future problems with ISIS were pretty predictable then.