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For $1k, I'd buy a Veritas, build my own sled platform, and spend the remaining $650 on two or three more of their planes.
The Veritas is a lovely tool, as is the Lie-Nielsen.

The nice feature of the original board is the adjustable stop which goes from 0º to 45º+ with infinite adjustment, which makes miters a breeze without having to make angle blocks for a wooden shooting board.

I shoot veneers and any number of other special items with wood boards and clamps, but for mitre work (what the 52-2 was designed for) the real thing is the cats pjs. I could never afford it now - I was lucky to find mine back when the collectors hadn't combed the country dry of these specialty tools. I'd never be able to afford it today.

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Nice! I built my collection in the mid 80's when I was in upstate NY.

The Bedrock planes are the ones to look for. Easy to spot with their squared off shoulders
The number on a B'rock begins with 6. So this is a #8


The real prize in my collection is this # 51 shooting plane and board.




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Damn, that shooting plane is something else. I started to collect some of the old woodworking tools in my 20s but lost interest and lack of money because I started my cabinet making business instead of doing "real" woodworking for a living. All my money was spent on my business and branched off to other parts of the construction industry. Now, I am sorry I gave many of the old planes and scrapers away. I had a couple really old Stanley rabbet planes and spoke shaves.

I will try and get a few photos of my dad's old jewelry making hand tools next time I stop by my folk's. Most of them are pretty simple and primitive and he made many himself.
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Wooden boat love these old tools , and There are is a huge renaissance.
I have several dozen user old planes, scrapers, chisels, spokeshaves, etc. and use them on my woodworking projects - as well as several newer planes and handtools.
I enjoy using them and they do an adequate job (for me.)

However, for the most part, newer designs, better materials, and better workmanship on new planes offers better performance, durability and use. There are numerous product improvements in the Veritas and Lie-Nielson offerings over their antique predecessors. In general, for the same amount of money, the newer products outperform the antiques by far.
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Afterburn 549- stop by this thread and have a look http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/870616-gm-671n-marine-diesel.html my wood boat under restoration.

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She is a Beauty !
Now i know why you know how to spile , scarf, 1/4 sawn.
I am not familiar with that one.
50 feet?
40000 lbs ?
Is that a mostly a East coast boat?
Thank you very much.

Yes, I like my spile's to match the wood, not crazy about contrasting myself. I know scarfs well but none in this one all but joints with backer blocks. Acres of quarter sawn teak on the decks.

Good eye. 53'
29 tons.

Perhaps this view will give it away?

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Tricky business moving a big wood boat on a trailer. I have a buddy who had a 42' N.J. Blanchard dreamboat shipped from Oregon to Newport, RI.

She is a Trumpy Built in Annapolis, MD
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So what does that make you now afterburn? A know it most?

Ok back to the tools.

A set of Craftsman lathe knives I picked up for 20 bucks. These will get used to turn new mast spars for the boat.

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A pleasure to read...
Learned a bit...
Looking up more.
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They still got it.











This is the first two of at least eight coats of varnish.
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Afterburn 549- stop by this thread and have a look http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/870616-gm-671n-marine-diesel.html my wood boat under restoration.

That is a lovely ship!
Brings back memories of my brief boatbuilding days in Maine at the Apprenticeshop.
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That is a lovely ship!
Brings back memories of my brief boatbuilding days in Maine at the Apprenticeshop.
Thanks Charles, The Apprenticeshop that's quite a resume.
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Thanks Charles, The Apprenticeshop that's quite a resume.
I wasn't there long - a summer internship. It was back when they were in Bath in the very early 80's. I think they're in Rockport now. It was part of the Maritime Museum when I was there.
It was a really enlightening experience. Forced you to think in 3-d. You can leave your square at home....

I've got plans for a couple of traditional small boats I'd like to build one day to take on the rivers around here. I originally wanted to build an H12 ½ but that's more than I can park on a trailer at my house. It'll likely be a variation of a Whitehall that I can put a sliding seat rowing set up in, or step a mast for a daysailer. I've recently made friends with a fellow who lives on a houseboat, so if I gave him use of it, he may let me moor it there.
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It sounds like it was a good time. H12-1/2 is one of my favorite small knockabouts. Beautiful lines.

Don't wait for one day. Git'er done. You won't have any regrets by building one of those boats today. But you may have regrets by not. My 911 sat for sixteen years in pieces. I always had an excuse, some legit most not. I regret not doing a little here a little there to get it back together. Years I can not get back.

You want this.

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Charlesbahn- I haven't used navel jelly since I was a kid. I use 3m pads in lieu os steel wool. I like Marvel Mystery oil myself. I will sometime use Penetrol as well. I mostly use the Penetrol on the painted parts and Marvel on the bare metal. You're right it is hard to pass by an old tool knowing what it was and can be again. I have the problem with a lot of things. Post pics of your collection.

Zeke- Hi Milt thanks for stopping by, The black on both tools is original. The plane was cleaned and then waxed with Minwax paste wax. The scraper was cleaned and then wiped down with Penetrol. Milt, you must have a nice plane collection with all the cool work you do?

Charles Freeborn- That is a fine collection and that shooting plane is fine. One day maybe I will come across one.
Working on it.
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It sounds like it was a good time. H12-1/2 is one of my favorite small knockabouts. Beautiful lines.

Don't wait for one day. Git'er done. You won't have any regrets by building one of those boats today. But you may have regrets by not. My 911 sat for sixteen years in pieces. I always had an excuse, some legit most not. I regret not doing a little here a little there to get it back together. Years I can not get back.

You want this.

The H 12 ½ is truly a small yacht. There are centerboard versions, but they've lost the graceful lines in order to make it stable. I bought plans from Mystic way back, and even got the nice person there to let me snap a pic of the offset chart. I'm sure that now-a-days it's available on the internet, but still....I've got the real deal... Just waiting for the time to make it happen. It will, just need to clear the other decks so I can take a real run at it.

The more impressive entry on my dance card was the time I spent at the Wendell Castle Workshop in the mid 80's learning furniture construction. That said, the prior time spent boatbuilding gave me a leg up there... can you tell?



That's all solid wood, elliptical shape coopered panels. A walk in the park for anyone that's done a carvel planked hull. Actually easier, as the joint face is consistent rather than fluid.... aaah to build a solid wood boat again....and I will....
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Charles, that is art. What a beautiful piece. Now I can't wait until you build a boat she will be stunning. So is that walnut with Ebony inlay? I love the grain in the top.
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Working on it.
Picked these up yesterday from an antiques dealer that sends me some work. I paid $12.50 ea. I don't know if that's a good price or not. All home made as far as I can tell.





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