Question about joining the Navy

[FOG]

A930,

30 years USMC, 21 years commissioned all AD.

Most of us who are responding were a) good at our job and b) enjoyed it thus spent quite a bit of time in that area. There were/are more than a few who hot for a specific job but found out it wasn’t really for them as well as the converse. Until you’re there you really don’t know what the job entails.

The best examples I think come from USMC officers. Everyone goes to the Basic School and quite a few go through Infantry Officer Class. More than a few went to TBS with the attitude of getting through to get to flight school or some other area but found themselves dropping the contract for a ground job. Others were all gung-ho about being a grunt but TBS and IOC changed their minds. Similar things happened in flight school, prior enlisted grunts well on the way to wings just didn’t see themselves flying so went a ground route.

I don’t know what programs the USN has to go from boot camp directly to the SEAL pipeline. Plus’s and minus’s. Have him take a good hard look at the SeaBees, good people, some ground training plus 12 81mm mortars per Bn.

S/F, FOG

[Hard-Deck]

Originally Posted by MRM

He will be more well educated than his commanding officers

Dude...
Show data please...
Or...
Stay in your corner...

[FastFrog]

[I]"Not ambitious well educated young people with bright futures" This describes enlisted SEALs who risk there lives for your freedom perfectly! I hope when they are done with their service they won't get you order wrong at McDonald's. Sounds like John Kerry, "study hard so you don't end up in Iraq"
This guys kid sounds like he will excel no matter what path he chooses. Fear of not succeeding should not be a factor. If you think you will fail, you will.

[matt930s]

Say whaaaaat?

As a former tactical airlift guy (and son of a SF 1SG)..beg to differ...

Btw, as mentioned previously, a USAF Special Tactics officer may be something to consider.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Special_Tactics_Officer

Enlisted routes include Para-Rescue (PJ's), CCT, TAC-P (you are basically in the Army), Combat Weather....
All great jobs....
Also SOLL II, TALCE and others....

(A930Rocket- I see you live in Mt. Plastic?)

MattR

Originally Posted by MRM

He won't be happy as an enlisted man in the Navy. He will be much older than the others in his training classes and his peers will not be the ambitious well educated young people with bright futures he is used to being part of. He will be more well educated than his commanding officers and will be stuck in a regimented life where his promotional opportunities are limited by time in service, no matter how well he excels, and then only if he excels with the required time in service. And once he's in, he's in until his enlistment is up whether he likes it or not. With no guarantees from the Navy about anything other than they keep him until his enlistment is up.

Instead, I strongly suggest he join the reserves now and do his basic next summer between his junior and senior year. He could join ROTC and do the officer equivalent as well, and I don't think he would have a commitment at that point unless he has a scholarship. Either way, he can decide then whether he still thinks he would be happy in active duty and in what capacity withut placing himself in a position he can't get out of.

[A930Rocket]

I'm working on a project in Atlanta right now but home and family are in MTP.

Originally Posted by matt930s

Say whaaaaat?

As a former tactical airlift guy (and son of a SF 1SG)..beg to differ...

Btw, as mentioned previously, a USAF Special Tactics officer may be something to consider.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Special_Tactics_Officer

Enlisted routes include Para-Rescue (PJ's), CCT, TAC-P (you are basically in the Army), Combat Weather....
All great jobs....
Also SOLL II, TALCE and others....

(A930Rocket- I see you live in Mt. Plastic?)

MattR

[FOG]

Originally Posted by Snapper33

Dude...
Show data please...
Or...
Stay in your corner...

Snapper,

My experience is that those who went to the “Elite”, “Top tier” schools (Ivy League, N Western, Notre Dame, etc.) were and are less educated in both the basics of the three R’s plus things like engineering, poly sci, and history than those from “lesser” schools. They were, with two exceptions, well schooled in what would be roughly termed being a snowflake nowadays. 180 degrees out from a Lt. Rowan.

Getting the above into the 80, let alone the 9 or 1, has proven problematic at best. Lts being maxed out at running MCMAP as only duty (a fleet average Cpl.s job), Adj., etc. is my experience with those from the elite schools.

S/F, FOG