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Tobra 01-25-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Holger (Post 9899600)

And are those door-"hings" made for such a load?

They are designed to keep the door shut in a crash, must be pretty stout.

I always just stand on top of the tire, have seen a rig that hangs on the tire to give you a step too.

vash 01-25-2018 09:59 AM

super slick!! love it.

(i wonder) what happens if you absent mindedly slam the door on it hanging there? that point is pretty burly i suspect, as Tobra points out.

KFC911 01-25-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 9899835)
it's not downwards force.. there is a fulcrum where the lower end presses against the door jam
So the hook pulls away from that door catch, not down.

I'de be more worried aboutit pulling the door catch out from the door jamb, or denting the spot where the fulcrum is.

Yer right....I said downward force, but you are correct in what I meant....

KFC911 01-25-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9900159)
super slick!! love it.

(i wonder) what happens if you absent mindedly slam the door on it hanging there? that point is pretty burly i suspect, as Tobra points out.

IF = WHEN

Maroonproof....just a concept

To the OP...ignore us naysayers.....this is PPOT....it's what we do ;)

Vipergrün 01-25-2018 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9900325)
IF = WHEN

Maroonproof....just a concept

To the OP...ignore us naysayers.....this is PPOT....it's what we do ;)

LOL wouldn't be PPOT without it.

vash 01-25-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 9900393)
LOL wouldn't be PPOT without it.

i think it is a GREAT idea. i'm a munchkin..and could use the boost.

cstreit 01-25-2018 08:52 PM

Thats a very specific and clever product. Good luck to him. Proud dad!

911boost 01-25-2018 09:02 PM

Are they making them yet? I know a few folks I would buy one for......

Holger 01-26-2018 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9900159)
super slick!! love it.

(i wonder) what happens if you absent mindedly slam the door on it hanging there? that point is pretty burly i suspect, as Tobra points out.

Maybe they should be painted in pink or orange?
It would be easier to see it before (or during :D ) slamming the door.

plexiform 01-26-2018 01:24 AM

Great Idea! You should be proud. Hope it does well. Just pledged for two of them. Will give one away and keep one for my truck.

Laneco 01-26-2018 04:10 AM

OMG! Just pledged for four of them!

I will reach ALL THE ROOF RACKS! VICTORY SHALL ME MINE! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gif

angela

Porchdog 01-26-2018 04:30 AM

I think that is a great idea and I'm getting some for myself. Even at 6'-1", Ladder racks and bike/canoe racks on pickups and SUV's can be a struggle. Easy enough to stand on the back tire, but often the cab is the issue, and I don't like to stand on the seat.

tevake 01-26-2018 06:56 AM

Cool idea, should do well at sports shops.
Nice to see your kids doing well like this.

Cheers Richard

Oracle 01-26-2018 07:07 AM

great idea!

Vipergrün 01-26-2018 07:22 AM

Thank you all for the kind words and your support!

Yes they are making them and expecting the first batch soon. Needless to say this has far exceeded their expectations, but they are planning on making the dates targeted on Kickstarter.

I may fly back and help pack boxes :--)

motion 01-26-2018 07:23 AM

Awesome idea!!!!

I would worry about a 300lb dude jumping on that thing, though. The latch is attached to the jamb by a couple of small bolts. Have they done a load test on various vehicles to find the deformation/failure weight? As someone else said, make sure he has good insurance.

Charles Freeborn 01-26-2018 08:10 AM

Great idea. Might even get one after I ask around on whether it'll damage the car (Outback).

aigel 01-26-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 9901454)
Awesome idea!!!!

I would worry about a 300lb dude jumping on that thing, though. The latch is attached to the jamb by a couple of small bolts. Have they done a load test on various vehicles to find the deformation/failure weight? As someone else said, make sure he has good insurance.

Like others mentioned, that latch is what keeps your door closed in a crash. It is very beefy. It takes a LOT of force to take out a bolt:

Metric Bolt Grades and Strength Calculator

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Charles Freeborn 01-26-2018 07:13 PM

My only concern would be that the loads are directed in a way that the pillar and latch are not designed to handle. That said, yes, that part of the car is very robust for other safety reasons. Still, a very clever idea. I load lumber and sheet goods onto the roof of my Outback a lot, as I'm in the woodworking biz, so I do see real value in this product.

Vipergrün 01-27-2018 09:22 AM

Thank you all for the feedback!

I'll try to track down a document, from the NHTSA, which outlines the strength and testing requirements for that area of the car. The striker bolt has to support 2500lbs of force.

The device is meant to be used in taller vehicles where the device can hang without interference from the wheel well, or other protrusion. It will come with warning labels, etc

Common sense - caveat emptor


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