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scottmandue 03-20-2018 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 9968841)
12595 cups (so far, in the office. The House machine has much higher numbers).

$599/12595 = 4.7 cents per cup run
Eight O Clock 100% Columbia = $4.99/11 oz, 7 grams per cup = 11.3 cents per cup
Electricity = 55 BTUs per 8 oz cup, 16 Watt-hours = 0.12 cents per cup.

Total = 16 cents per 8 oz cup

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521579028.jpg
Okay you sent me on a google search, apparently Jura no longer makes a $599 machine.

Crowbob 03-20-2018 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 9968826)
I've rebuilt this LaPavoni machine and it makes a perfect espresso. A lever press takes some time to figure out, and every one is different.

Replicating consistently good shots is an art form to be sure. Some of the best shots I have had are when I thought I had messed up. It's then that I discover that a small change in temperature, a little coarser grind, the tamp, the brew time and length of the pull, all add up to the perfect cup.

It's a lot like tuning carburetors. Once you get it right, something will change and then you adjust.
I'll stick with drip. I can't hardly even get the morning cuppa Joe to my lips some mornings let alone calibrate the grind, tamp, temp, time and length of pull.

snbush67 03-20-2018 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 9969085)
I'll stick with drip. I can't hardly even get the morning cuppa Joe to my lips some mornings let alone calibrate the grind, tamp, temp, time and length of pull.
Same here, I move real slow through the whole process. Sometimes I pause, occasionally I find myself staring out the kitchen window in a foggy haze, drooling into the sink.

I have become addicted to the morning ritual and the extracted perfection that a great espresso brings.

red-beard 03-20-2018 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9969076)
Okay you sent me on a google search, apparently Jura no longer makes a $599 machine.
The E8 is a very old model. I bought mine refurbished. Here is a more modern one for $549

https://www.wholelattelove.com/refurbished-jura-ena-micro-5-espresso-machine

red-beard 03-20-2018 05:25 PM
This is closer to the my E8 for $899

https://www.wholelattelove.com/refurbished-jura-impressa-f7

And a MUCH cheaper Gaggia for $300

https://www.wholelattelove.com/refurbished-gaggia-unica-super-automatic-espresso-machine

Superman 03-20-2018 05:37 PM
I've been using a French press for many years. Daily. I also grind the beans fresh.

Here's a tip: Grind the beans finely. I know....conventional wisdom is to use a coarse grind for a French press. I renew my suggestion. Grind the beans finely.

wdfifteen 03-20-2018 07:17 PM
We have a French press, a Chemex, and a Saeco super automatic. The Saeco gets used 99% of the time. I do like the coffee the French press makes, but with the Saeco I can stumble into the kitchen, push a button, and have a great cup of coffee ready in less than a minute.

snbush67 03-20-2018 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 9969143)
I've been using a French press for many years. Daily. I also grind the beans fresh.

Here's a tip: Grind the beans finely. I know....conventional wisdom is to use a coarse grind for a French press. I renew my suggestion. Grind the beans finely.
Chacun voit midi à sa porte. Inutile de discuter.

mjohnson 03-20-2018 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 9969126)
IDK.

I've shared time with three Juras over the last ten years, at work and at home. So many 10s of thousands of shots and they've always performed. In the grand scheme of things I'd spend the extra for another one. Maybe the Gaggia is good, but it's an unknown (to me).

mjohnson 03-20-2018 08:04 PM
That Bodum in the pic is also the same as ours.

I'm not sure what coffee:water we use. I'll have to weigh it out the next time I eyeball it. Serious Eats did their drip tests at 1:16 by weight - I wonder if French Press is the same? Definitely coarse grind, based on how long the steep is.

TMI probably but coffee from the press really "gets things moving" for me. Drip, even through a metal filter (and likely not absorbing as many oils as paper) doesn't even register...

Can I do cold brew with the french press? Time for an experiment!

red-beard 03-20-2018 08:05 PM
I would agree. While $899 seems like a lot, over the life of the machine, not really. I checked the home machine, 25968.

One of my neighbors bought a Gaggia Super Automatic, and he's been happy with it.

astrochex 03-21-2018 03:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superman (Post 9969143)
I've been using a French press for many years. Daily. I also grind the beans fresh.

Here's a tip: Grind the beans finely. I know....conventional wisdom is to use a coarse grind for a French press. I renew my suggestion. Grind the beans finely.
You like a lot of body in your coffee?

cabmandone 03-21-2018 04:24 AM
My 16 year old son is really into the whole French Press coffee thing. My wife bought him a frother as a valentines day gift. The kid likes his coffee. My brother, who is REALLY into coffee, roasts the beans and uses a French Press. He's too fancy IMO.

Roswell 03-21-2018 05:31 AM
Clever Coffee - been using one for years. next step in the pour over evolution. Great cup of coffee.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/product/clever-coffee-dripper-large

TimT 03-21-2018 07:27 AM
Dr Coffee

tabs 03-21-2018 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 9969015)
Our household has steadfastly resisted the intrusion of coffee machines, we only use a French Press, and a two shot stove top espresso pot in the evenings. The trouble with the French Press- they break. The glass pot is easily broken while washing. But an insulated steel Press- has about ten years on it now, even I haven't broken it.
Bodum makes a SS 4 cup pitcher model.

scottmandue 03-21-2018 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 9969126)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521660447.jpg

I'm afraid to ask you guys what you think of Breville? (it has great reviews)

https://www.wholelattelove.com/breville-bes840xl-the-infuser-semi-automatic-espresso-machine

wdfifteen 03-21-2018 12:35 PM
I asked Mrs WD if we should try the French Press and she told me to stay off the porn sites.

vash 03-21-2018 01:00 PM
Haha


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