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zakthor 03-22-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9971330)
Oh yeah... 240 works way better for anything that's got a heater element in it....

Thats the truth. The wattage difference didn't sink in until I used an electric kettle in england. A whole kettle of water boils in like a minute. I guess it makes sense what with all the tea they drink. It sure felt like water boiled more than twice as fast.

If I ever buy a bigger espresso machine I'm defiantly getting a dedicated 240 line for it.

JavaBrewer 03-26-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9970372)
Okay, that is pretty cool... especially seeing as I usually do multiple shots of coffee.

However convincing my wife I need a $800 coffee maker might be a hard sell :D

On the other hand the reason she shot down a espresso machine was that "they are so messy" and a super automatic would eliminate the grinder (grind my own beans every morning and some spillage is inevitable) and the mess of tamping/loading.

Hmmmmm

So I did some online research of the Breville that you linked earlier and couldn't find anything but positive reviews and comments. I saw that BedBathBeyond sells those things and we have a load of coupons... So we head over to their local store and in the same mall is a high end kitchen shop (Sur La Table) that I know sells espresso machines. Sure enough they have a table lined with Jira automatics (wow $5600 for the top model) and free coffee samples. At the other side of the table are the semi-automatics and the single serve (Nespresso) options. We leave convinced that Breville is a decent product and $415 later walk out of BBB with our https://www.wholelattelove.com/breville-bes870xl-barista-express.

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I like that it comes with it's own burr grinder but is not dependent on it for ultimately making an espresso. Getting the right grind is critical and changes from bean to bean. We get it home, unpacked, cleaned, and prepped. It took me 3-4 tries to get the grind and volume settings correct but now pulls a double shot of Pete's espresso like a champ. Sure it's messy (coffee grounds) compared to the Jura and single serve machines but it fits my needs, has a quality appearance, and is simple to operate.

To appease the karma gods my wife did buy a copper whisk and a new lid handle for our Le Creuset dutch oven from the fancy place. ;) I'm still going to get a new portafilter for the old machine we have and give that to our daughter for her college apartment.

dan79brooklyn 03-27-2018 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 9976695)
So I did some online research of the Breville that you linked earlier and couldn't find anything but positive reviews and comments. I saw that BedBathBeyond sells those things and we have a load of coupons... So we head over to their local store and in the same mall is a high end kitchen shop (Sur La Table) that I know sells espresso machines. Sure enough they have a table lined with Jira automatics (wow $5600 for the top model) and free coffee samples. At the other side of the table are the semi-automatics and the single serve (Nespresso) options. We leave convinced that Breville is a decent product and $415 later walk out of BBB with our https://www.wholelattelove.com/breville-bes870xl-barista-express.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522104692.jpg

I like that it comes with it's own burr grinder but is not dependent on it for ultimately making an espresso. Getting the right grind is critical and changes from bean to bean. We get it home, unpacked, cleaned, and prepped. It took me 3-4 tries to get the grind and volume settings correct but now pulls a double shot of Pete's espresso like a champ. Sure it's messy (coffee grounds) compared to the Jura and single serve machines but it fits my needs, has a quality appearance, and is simple to operate.

To appease the karma gods my wife did buy a copper whisk and a new lid handle for our Le Creuset dutch oven from the fancy place. ;) I'm still going to get a new portafilter for the old machine we have and give that to our daughter for her college apartment.

I’ve been tempted to buy that Breville to replace my old Saeco. Glad to hear you’re pleased with it.

zakthor 03-27-2018 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 9976695)
So I did some online research of the Breville that you linked earlier and couldn't find anything but positive reviews and comments. I saw that BedBathBeyond sells those things and we have a load of coupons... So we head over to their local store and in the same mall is a high end kitchen shop (Sur La Table) that I know sells espresso machines. Sure enough they have a table lined with Jira automatics (wow $5600 for the top model) and free coffee samples. At the other side of the table are the semi-automatics and the single serve (Nespresso) options. We leave convinced that Breville is a decent product and $415 later walk out of BBB with our https://www.wholelattelove.com/breville-bes870xl-barista-express.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522104692.jpg

I like that it comes with it's own burr grinder but is not dependent on it for ultimately making an espresso. Getting the right grind is critical and changes from bean to bean. We get it home, unpacked, cleaned, and prepped. It took me 3-4 tries to get the grind and volume settings correct but now pulls a double shot of Pete's espresso like a champ. Sure it's messy (coffee grounds) compared to the Jura and single serve machines but it fits my needs, has a quality appearance, and is simple to operate.

To appease the karma gods my wife did buy a copper whisk and a new lid handle for our Le Creuset dutch oven from the fancy place. ;) I'm still going to get a new portafilter for the old machine we have and give that to our daughter for her college apartment.

Congrats. Slippery slope.

Doesn't make much sense to me to integrate a crappy grinder - i'm now on my 4th grinder and finally happy. Is really amazing how much difference the grinder makes. See if you can demo one at home.

I demoed the new brevilles. With high end grinders I had trouble pulling good shots with the 870, but the 920 was cake to use. I was just pulling shots, no steaming, I suspect the 870 isn't so temp stable or the unit I demoed wasn't working well.

Biggest problem is how they drive you to buy expensive beans.

red-beard 03-27-2018 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 9977330)
Biggest problem is how they drive you to buy expensive beans.

I disagree. Try 100% Columbian from Eight-o-Clock

sammyg2 03-27-2018 07:19 AM

Darn whipper-snappers and yer fancy foo-foo drinks.
Back in my day men drank COFFEE! ;)

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cstreit 03-27-2018 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TimT (Post 9968329)
You might want to try an Aeropress

I take one of these camping. Its a lot more fiddly then a french press, but way easier to pack.

All the guys on our Baja trip made fun of me for bringing it on a dirt bike tour - but they changed their tune when they didnt have coffee in the morning.

scottmandue 03-27-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9977585)
That's the brown bag, right? Tried a couple of times, but always seems a bit light to me...

If there is a Trader Joe's near you they have a whole rack of reasonably price whole beans. Columbia, Kenya, Costa Rica, Kona, Bolivia, etc.

red-beard 03-27-2018 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9977585)
That's the brown bag, right? Tried a couple of times, but always seems a bit light to me...

Red bag - brown stripe

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astrochex 03-27-2018 02:04 PM

Coffee tip if you’re in the Dayton OH area. Press Coffee bar roasts their own beans under the Wood Burl Coffee brand. They do not, I repeat, do not roast their beans to a campfire aroma but actually let the flavor of the beans come out. Had a nice Ethiopian French press this morning.

They were just named best coffee in Ohio by Food & Wine magazine.

I’m going to try their cappuccino tomorrow, my go to beverage for measuring the quality of a cafe.

zakthor 03-28-2018 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9977509)
Darn whipper-snappers and yer fancy foo-foo drinks.
Back in my day men drank COFFEE! ;)

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Yeah... just about every morning I pull a shot where I stop and smack my lips and curse because it tastes so good. There is something in good espresso that lights me up. I bring a hand grinder, beans, miletta cone when traveling, cup in the morning, but never lights me up like good espresso.

The problem though is that anything but the best beans makes for horrible espresso, no/bad crema, you can taste every rancid burned detail. Much better to make drip.

We've been hooked on vivace dolce blend (Espresso Vivace | Product categories | Coffee For Home) for years and years. Hate the price and occasionally we switch it up but always come back. At $30/week i figure the joy it gives is significantly more than expensive wine that we don't drink.

Porchdog 03-28-2018 07:03 AM

I'm no connoisseur. Black, drip coffee for me every morning.

I actually look forward to the hunting and fishing trips where we make our coffee on the propane stove with a percolator. That's good coffee.

My son uses an Aeropress in the field with the USMC. I might need to try that.


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