Southwest - Suck out!

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Uh, no - the size of the window is purely a structural consideration. Like I said earlier, even a football lineman will get blown out through that window. Quite easily. Won't be pretty, but he will "fit".

No made to fit.

[supdaf]

oddly, the window shatters and creates a large hole in the fuselage. the outflow valve that normally controls pressurization in the cabin goes completely closed. it is trying to maintain pressure in the cabin. the valve in this case will most likely remain closed until switched to manual and opened. The two folks in the front of the airplane now have a bunch of things to do and that outflow valve is low on the priority scale. don't know if it is on the checklist.

this unfortunate lady now kinda plugs the large hole in the fuselage. I would guess that this also kinda makes her situation worse. the cabin is still being pumped with air from the remaining engine.

makes me want to drive...

which, as said before, carries more risk of injury.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Modern aircraft pressurization controllers are complex computer controlled devices with a lot of automation and emergency modes. I never spent much time working pressurization or ECS systems but I’m pretty sure the system isn’t that “dumb”. Even with a person partially plugging the hole it’s not going to re-pressurize the aircraft. I’ve participated in pressurization tests of new and modded aircraft, even little stuff like a damaged door seal can keep the fuselage from reaching the correct delta p.

[supdaf]

I don't think it was going to repressurize but like I said it was working against her. I do not think a person could completely "plug" the hole. may not have mattered at that point.

[URY914]

Have seen the pictures on line of the passengers wearing the drop down O2 masks incorrectly? None of them had the mask over their noses.

[Seahawk]

Ask and ye shall receive:

Originally Posted by widebody911

[stomachmonkey]

This may sound horrible and it kind of is but I was sitting in Terminal A, SouthWests terminal, at LGA yesterday waiting for my flight.

They came on the PA and announced the flight would be a bit delayed as they had some extra cleaning to do.

In my mind I just pictured gibs all over the inside of the plane.

Godspeed to that poor woman.

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by URY914

Have seen the pictures on line of the passengers wearing the drop down O2 masks incorrectly? None of them had the mask over their noses.

I noticed this too and wondered to myself if I had it wrong! LOlz!

[Tidybuoy]

I'm always amazed when I see passengers undo their seatbelts as soon as the light goes off. I always stay belted unless I have to use the restroom. It's just not that uncomfortable to keep the seat belt on.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

I'm always amazed when I see passengers undo their seatbelts as soon as the light goes off. I always stay belted unless I have to use the restroom. It's just not that uncomfortable to keep the seat belt on.

This may be a result of the safety record airlines have. Most people have only had a bus ride in the sky. But I'm with you. I've seen flight attendants get slammed into the cabin ceiling during "unscheduled" descents. I've also done more than one paint shaker ride across the English Channel between Gatwick and Le Havre Octeville.

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

I'm always amazed when I see passengers undo their seatbelts as soon as the light goes off. I always stay belted unless I have to use the restroom. It's just not that uncomfortable to keep the seat belt on.

I also stay belted the entire time. And I can count on maybe two fingers the number of times I've ever gotten up to use the lavatory.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I don't worry about flying or driving, but I wear my seatbelt for both. I was on probably close to 200 flights in 2017 and didn't have a single incident worse than normal turbulence, but why wouldn't you?

[tcar]

Originally Posted by MMiller

I was curious about that as well....

You're wondering about seat belt...???

Several posts had already said that she WAS wearing her seatbelt.

[tcar]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

This may sound horrible and it kind of is but I was sitting in Terminal A, SouthWests terminal, at LGA yesterday waiting for my flight.

They came on the PA and announced the flight would be a bit delayed as they had some extra cleaning to do.

In my mind I just pictured gibs all over the inside of the plane.

Guess you're trying (too hard) to be funny and not succeeding ...

That plane won't fly again for weeks, or months.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by tcar

Guess you're trying (too hard) to be funny and not succeeding ...

That plane won't fly again for weeks, or months.

Nope, not trying to be funny.

It's exactly what went through my mind as soon as i heard it and the point was it bothered me that I had that thought.

Someone's wife, mother, child, friend, died.

There is nothing humorous about that.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by sand_man

I also stay belted the entire time. And I can count on maybe two fingers the number of times I've ever gotten up to use the lavatory.

I am cursed with a tiny bladder so on long flights I often have to get up once or twice to use the head, however I also always keep my seat-belt on when seated.

I used to fly a couple times a year for work and have experienced some pretty bad turbulence.

[mreid]

I was out with friends a couple weeks ago. One is a trauma surgeon. He said, “never get in your car or fly with a full bladder.” Of course, I needed details. His simple reply, “the seatbelt will rupture your bladder in an accident. What might have been minor is now a big deal that will take months to heal if ever.” That was enough for me.

[recycled sixtie]

I think the captain and copilot did a remarkable job in bringing the aircraft safely back.
My heart goes out to the deceased lady's husband and children.

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by URY914

Have seen the pictures on line of the passengers wearing the drop down O2 masks incorrectly? None of them had the mask over their noses.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/misused-masks-highlight-challenges-of-preparing-passengers-for-accidents-1524173260

[Brown747]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

Yep. Nobody since 2009 has died in a commercial incident including commuters.
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/data/Pages/paxfatal.aspx
VS cars in the US. 110 a day in 2017
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2018/02/16/480956.htm

Not quite true. There has been no passengers lost since the Colgan 2009 accident but sadly there has been loss of life in US commercial aviation.




Independent Pilots Association Advisory: Southwest 1380 is NOT the first U.S. airline fatality since 2009; UPS 1354 in 2013

Release Date: 4/18/2018 1:54:39 PM
LOUISVILLE, Ky., April 18, 2018 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The death resulting from an engine failure on Southwest Flt. 1380 yesterday is, sadly, not the first casualty at a U.S. airline since Colgan Air Flt. 3407 in 2009. Tragically, on August 14, 2013, United Parcel Service Flt. 1354 crashed on approach to Birmingham-Shuttleworth International Airport, resulting in the deaths of two crewmembers, Captain Cerea Beal and First Officer Shanda Fanning.

UPS Airlines is the world's largest airline by destinations served at 720. The next closest is FedEx with 375 destinations served. Data provided by The World's Largest Airlines - Airport Spotting Blog dated December 2017.