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Finally started Painting

The body work is over and i finally started putting on some sealer, bc/cc. Using PPG in my homemade carage hot rod style paint booth. here are a few pics. got some runs, etc. so I will be color sanding and polishing those out. Used a Devilbiss Plus gun. Built the trolleys which make moving things around allot easier.









Note my customized front and rear bumpers



And everything tucked away until Thurs when I plan to shoot the body.


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Nice work Bob, she's going to look great
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Looks good! How's your booth ventilation working out?
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I guess you would say it is an over pressure setup. The end is left open and the fans purpose is to push the overspray out... work faily well, could have used a bit more CFMs.
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Here are some more pics of the body, etc.




This is base coat, PPG9700



This is me. did get some runs and orange peel that will need to be color sanded out, but I guess that's to be expected.



Also decided to go "au natural" on the hinges. I know the factory painted them, but I found they were zinc coated as are the front and rear lid hinges. What do you think?

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bob,
i know the factory mounted the doors, adjusted the gaps in primer,
then pulled the hinge pins and painted the doors separately.
it looks like that is what you did too.
how the he!! do you get those pins out and in without destroying that beautiful paint job?
i know there is a special tool, did you use it?
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no I pulled the door for body work and painting. Had to use new pins
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Looks great. Good job.
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Looks like you got lots of "trash" in your paint which is typical of a makeshift booth. If I am correct (hard to tell in the pics) you will need to sand it out and then dab clear into each crater that inevitably is left after you sand.. Do this after your paint hardens for a week so the dabs are soft and the rest is hard. Then after 24 hrs color sand the dabs out to fill in the craters.

Do NOT sand with your hand.. use a block or something that keeps the paper flat.

I plan to do a write up on this soon.
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I did get some trash... painted the panels at night. Bad move. The bugs come out. Fortuately most were in the 2nd and 3rd coat of clear. Used a nib file to remove. Painted the body early in the morning and experienced much less trash. I knew I was going to wetsand and polish even if it were done in a regular booth. I'm in the compounding and polishing process now. Using a wool pad and a black foam pad and SureFinish polish. I'll post more pics soon.
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I did get some trash... painted the panels at night. Bad move. The bugs come out. Fortuately most were in the 2nd and 3rd coat of clear. Used a nib file to remove. Painted the body early in the morning and experienced much less trash. I knew I was going to wetsand and polish even if it were done in a regular booth. I'm in the compounding and polishing process now. Using a wool pad and a black foam pad and SureFinish polish. I'll post more pics soon.
I think you'll find wherevere you had trash there is now a "crater". They will show up in different light and be more or less noticeable depending on where. Basically, a foreign object creates a "fisheye" where the paint pushes away from the object as if to say no way man Im not goin near that!

This may be acceptable to you or it simply may not have happened with your paint type or maybe you are doing something different and better than me. Sanding all the way down until smooth is usually not an option as the craters are pretty deep.

Your nib file is interesting.. where did you get it.. can you post a picture of it? It may have saved me some hassle.

I assume you are using a machine to polish.. if so the lesson I learned is make sure on the edges of anything that the wheel is spinning TOWARDS the edge not away.. Otherwise you will "catch" the edge and a bad thing will happen causing some serious swearing. If you only go to the base coat you are ok but if you go beyond that you are SOL.

I really need to do a write up.. maybe we can combine notes and do a good one so guys like you and I have more success in the garage.. I couldnt find anything on the net about the details of doing this work in the garage other than building the booth.. which as it turns out even with filters on all my fans I could not stop the trash (I even had a complete enclosure where I had in and out fans). No bugs like you but I had bad trash which Im still repairing.

Here is how mine came out after fixing most of the trash... believe it or not, mine is single stage.
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Assuming you guys are talking base/clearcoat paint, I did my car piece by piece also, and between coats of paint, inspected each layer for bugs etc, sanded them out with 600 and dusted color over the sand marks. I painted my car in my garage with just a fan and a filter with cracking the door a bit. By the time I got to laying down the clear, things were good. One contributor to Fish eyes is having silicone products in the paint space/garage. calling911, you are correct, NEVER sand without a block!!!! Reguardless, both paint jobs are awesome!!! Something to be proud of....
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Thanks guys. This site has been invaluable to me for information and advice: http://www.autobodystore.com/forum/index.php There are some great guys there to help.

Here is the pic if the nib files. I wouldn't buy the course one again, only the fine one. I understand Harbor Freight carries these for about 5 bucks. I bought mine from TP Tools for $14 ea. A tip is to lay down a piece of tape on each side of the run to prevent scatches where you don't want them.
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nice work with the paint, def put some pics up of it after u color sand it
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what type of air compressor are you using?
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It's an Ingersol Rand 5HP, 80 gal. Got it from Northern tools., also paired it with a Devilbuss Plus paint gun.
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It's an Ingersol Rand 5HP, 80 gal. Got it from Northern tools., also paired it with a Devilbuss Plus paint gun.
So if I would paint some parts at home using a Craftsman 1.6 HP 33 gal 125 PSI tank. What type of problems would I run into?
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Depends. It is more of a CFM issue. Your compressor needs to be able to provide the correct CFM demanded by the paint gun. Then, the bigger the tank, the less the compressor has to work
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It's coming together... just had some cooler weather today... 80's following two weeks of 100+

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Bob,

nice job !

How come the reflector panel was not on the car when you painted it ? Is it bolted instead of welded ?

Are there any issues painting the car in the heat and humidity we have here in Houston ?

I'm truly impressed.
I was quoted 7.5K for a paint job last week and it feels wrong for a car that will see mostly the track, I don't need a garage queen and would prefer to spend the money on other parts.
Posts like these are inspiring, but I'm still scared of painting my car in my garage.

JP, feel free to write an article about your experience !

-Guillaume

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