Vinyl Re-glue?

[avale]

My door seals are trashed and the door sill rubber strip pad has shrunk by nearly and inch so it is time to replace them both. I don't like the idea of using the doubled sided tape on the door sill rubber (due to trapping water underneath, etc.) so I removed all the old glue and will use the 3M adhesive to install the new door seals and door sill rubber.

I noticed that the vinyl covering, shown in the picture has lifted. If I stretch the vinyl flat, I can make it wrap around the edge. Any recommendations as to what to use to "re-glue" the vinyl and how best to do it? Do I use clothes pins to clamp it while it dries?

[jimtweet]

[avale]

Thanks Jim, that is what I have to glue the door seal and still rubber. Still looking for guidance around "how"...

[AirJose]

Hi,

Just remove any old glue and fabric before using that weatherstrip adhesive. Put some latex gloves to apply if using your fingers. A small wood spatula like a standard tongue depressor works great. Apply a thin coat in both sides and let it dry, I guess about 3-5 minutes. Grab the vinyl and stretch before joining both sides. Once is on it will stay on and is very hard to lift and reposition again. This stuff works great!

Good luck,

Jose

[avale]

Thanks Jose - that is what I was looking for! Didn't have time do get to this today but will shortly.

[rokemester]

Another tool to consider is a very small disposable paint brush. I’ve also used golf tees for even more precise application of various adhesives.

[dustim04]

Any tips on how to stubborn old glue?

[Garrym]

I would suggest that you be very cautious, I may be wrong but I think this stuff will eat into paint.

[Paulporsche]

From the yellowish color it looks like the old glue may be contact cement. You can buy contact cement thinner, which would help soften it for removal. You may have to scrape it with a plastic putty knife once softened. Varsol or other paint thinners would probably also work.

[Ayles]

Originally Posted by Paulporsche

From the yellowish color it looks like the old glue may be contact cement. You can buy contact cement thinner, which would help soften it for removal. You may have to scrape it with a plastic putty knife once softened. Varsol or other paint thinners would probably also work.

This, when i was doing my interior in a couple spots i found that new contact cement actually activated the old leading to a condition where neither would stick. You will want to make sure all of the old glue is cleaned up.

[WMichelsen]

I have several areas where vinyl trim is pulling up. This vinyl is original trim, and in reasonably good condition. I prefer not to replace the vinyl pieces (just another can-o-worms). The glue has simply let go.

I've tried to re-glue with Weldwood contact cement and 3M Super-77. But, they just pull away, also. The problem is that the original glue has degraded into a soft sticky goo, seeped into the vinyl cloth. So, additional adhesive doesn't get a clean material to adhere to, and just pulls away.

I've tried cleaning with various solvents, but no luck. I'm sure others have encountered this issue. Has anyone found a successful solution to un-goo the gooey sticky, so it can be re-glued again?
I am specifically referring to cleaning the woven vinyl backing. Cleaning the metal or smooth rubber is straight forward. Un-goo'ifying the vinyl fabric is the elusive task.

[EC900]

Too much Amorall I found was interfering with my bonding. Repeated wiping with isopropyl alcohol helps. Acetone carefully too - quick wipes not soaking.
For my peeling door cards and door pocket edges, I cut a bunch of 4” squares of white 100% cotton patches and wiped gooey residue off the edges of my door cards and door pockets, was able to scrape and shape some goop off with a exacto knife too.

Wiping gets the goop to ball-up. Talc powder will help dry out and solidify soft goop and make it easier to remove. Dont use mineral spirits, too slow to dry and causes it to stay gooey. acetone sparingly. Small sections.

Keep wiping and change these patches to ensure you’re picking up old glue residue.
The cotton also leaves behind tiny fibers that will act as a new surface.
Maybe try to leave a cotton patches over the soft goop, clamp it down and it will transfer it over from old to new backer, peel away “band-aid style” and repeat until it seems clean.

[Tony V]

3M adhesive remover is kind to your paint.
Tony

[PeteKz]

I was able to glue the original vinyl back onto the door frame in my 1973, using a heat gun (carefully) to soften and stretch the old vinyl, then gluing it down with 3M weatherstrip adhesive.

[Brickwhite]

For vinyl - Ol' contact cement on both sides let dry then press.

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