G model till '84...then?

[jgurnari]

Did the G model end in '84?

If so, what model came after the G model?

Trying to understand what model my 1985 911 Carrera is

[ccallana]

G is up through 89...

The 84-89 cars are usually noted as Carrera 3.2 (due to the increase in engine size from 3.0 to 3.2 over the 78-83 SC cars)

[jgurnari]

so prior to 84, G, what was the body model? an SC body style? i’m asking because my friend has an ‘81 911 Targa that has a 3.2 engine.

[dg567]

G body 74-89

Mid year MY74-77
SC MY78-83
Carrera MY84-89

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by jgurnari

Did the G model end in '84?

If so, what model came after the G model?

Trying to understand what model my 1985 911 Carrera is

Here are the actual factory designations, the commonly bandied about term 'G series' is just street talk bandied about by the uninformed



after the K series 911 came the 964

[3rd_gear_Ted]

Thanks Mr. Bill, very informative.

One question, is there any variation within each of the series?

[MBAtarga]

Ted, there is variation among the series - for example - the "SC" years of 78-83. Different part numbers for parts of the CIS system- and of course differences in US vs ROW models exist across most (all?) models. The engine displacement is not different though.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted

Thanks Mr. Bill, very informative.

One question, is there any variation within each of the series?

intended market variations, the most obvious, US vs most RoW, but also lhd vs rhd drive and there were other idiosyncratic differences for specific markets each w/ their own rules and regs.

[RarlyL8]

G-body and F-body have become generic descriptions for the impact bumper 911 (G-body) and early 911 (F-body). Same goes for the 964Turbo being referred to as a 965, the actual type 965 was not a 964Turbo.

[Schulisco]

To give you guys a bit more confusion, according to the street legal regulations the 911 was called "SC" up to 1986, even with the 3.2 Carrera engine. Solution is due to the same chassis / tub from 1978-1986 remained unchanged with the 915 gearboxes. With the bigger G50 gearbox (and changed rear axle/spring tubes) the 911 transformed officially from "SC" to "911 Carrera" from 1987 onwards. See as follows in this german registration paper of a 1984 Carrera:



#1 = initial approval date
#2 = car type
#3 = trade/trademark id
#4 = engine displacement in ccm
#5 = engine power in kW at rpm

So don't wonder when you see a ROW 911 Carrera named as an 911 SC in the street registration paperworks. This only means that it's a 911 with a tub from MY 1978-1986 with a 915 gearbox... otoh I don't know whether the german street registration regulations will be 1:1 applied to other countries like the US ...

Thomas

[Bill Verburg]

To confuse the issue further 2.7 engines has SC on the blower plaque, and I think that my 2.4 had the same but that was a long time ago and my memory is very suspect, my '76 Carrera 3.0 definitely had SC on that plaque

[jgurnari]

great posts

[PeteKz]

G body, G body, G body!

[wildthing]

And in the Porsche Classic website, the G-model is 74-89.

[wazzz]

Originally Posted by Schulisco

To give you guys a bit more confusion, according to the street legal regulations the 911 was called "SC" up to 1986, even with the 3.2 Carrera engine. Solution is due to the same chassis / tub from 1978-1986 remained unchanged with the 915 gearboxes. With the bigger G50 gearbox (and changed rear axle/spring tubes) the 911 transformed officially from "SC" to "911 Carrera" from 1987 onwards. See as follows in this german registration paper of a 1984 Carrera:



#1 = initial approval date
#2 = car type
#3 = trade/trademark id
#4 = engine displacement in ccm
#5 = engine power in kW at rpm

So don't wonder when you see a ROW 911 Carrera named as an 911 SC in the street registration paperworks. This only means that it's a 911 with a tub from MY 1978-1986 with a 915 gearbox... otoh I don't know whether the german street registration regulations will be 1:1 applied to other countries like the US ...

Thomas

Thomas, even more confusing. My 88 Carrera is registered in France with type 911SC32A. So the "SC" part still appears in later years and that created confusion when I had my car inspected for insurance. Because of the SC part the guy who did the inspection believed this was a 3.0 liter engine.

[76FJ55]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

Here are the actual factory designations, the commonly bandied about term 'G series' is just street talk bandied about by the uninformed



after the K series 911 came the 964

Is this based on the VIN, or at least the standardized 17 digit VIN? as in this chart appears to correlate with the 10th position of the VIN, regardless of model type.
So you could have a "G-series" 911, 924, 928 or 944.

I think the G-Model is different than the G-Series, and does seem to be recognized by Porsche or at least they reference it on their website, with a link to the breakdown on the G-Model HERE.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by 76FJ55

Is this based on the VIN, or at least the standardized 17 digit VIN? as in this chart appears to correlate with the 10th position of the VIN, regardless of model type.
So you could have a "G-series" 911, 924, 928 or 944.

I think the G-Model is different than the G-Series, and does seem to be recognized by Porsche or at least they reference it on their website, with a link to the breakdown on the G-Model HERE.

from MY1980 it would appear that the series letter was in the VIN, for prior years not

[76FJ55]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

Bill,
Out of curiosity, where did you get the "Series" designation list?

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by 76FJ55

Bill,
Out of curiosity, where did you get the "Series" designation list?

It's been in common use in the literature since before i bought my first 911 in the mid '70s

Those are factory designations

[dg567]

The series list has to do with engine numbers - 87 3.2 engines have a K in the engine serial number, 88 have a J and so on.