Ebay listing 4607630442 value

Nine9six · Nine9six's Garage

I estimate the value of this car at 13-14K. Its current bid price is $22.5K. Am I that outta touch? Anyone else care to value this car?
Salvaged title 88 cab, 73413 mi.
Ebay item # 4607630442

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

The high bidder may have glossed over the salvage title and the little domestic drama revealed in the ad.

The wheels are very valuable. The wide body kit, if Factory is + $7K or so. The color combo is very desirable.

It seems to me to be a $19 - 20K car, but YMMV.

trader220 · 01-30-2006, 01:01 PM

There is so much wrong with that add where do you start? No abs no airbags etc etc. oh and shocking the high bidder is a zero feedback bidder. Can you say SHILL ?

baldman · 01-30-2006, 01:21 PM

Almost every bidder has 0 feedback. Weird....

trader220 · 01-30-2006, 02:54 PM

Nothing weird about it, its a shill game

Mojo · 01-30-2006, 04:18 PM

What is shill?

biergut · 01-30-2006, 04:27 PM

Yes ... don't you just love the Holy Bible placed so carefully in the back seat ..........

trader220 · 01-30-2006, 04:38 PM

Shill… the art of bidding on ones own items up for auction as to drive up the price in hopes some other bidder will top your phony bid on your own item.

David E. Clark · 01-30-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Mojo
What is shill?

There is a good defination in Wilkipedia here.

"A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services, who pretends no association to the seller and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage other potential customers, unaware of the set-up, to purchase said goods or services"

techweenie · techweenie's Garage

Well, if anyone has any real evicence that there is shilling on this auction, they should report it and eBay will cancel the account.

I think people often knee-jerk in response to bidders (there have to be two) that make bids they don't understand. More often, it's enthusiastic but undisciplined buyers who bid high and early.

If you want to bid over $15K on any item, you have to prove to eBay you're good for it -- which eliminates a lot of kids placing random bids, and shills, as well.

Also: I often write to a seller and explain that I refuse to bid against a zero-rated bidder, and that the majority of eBay buyers will, too. And that they need to independently verify that the bidder is real.

plymouthcolt · plymouthcolt's Garage

Without a bill of sale from the husband, can't he just say the car was taken (stolen) by his wife and get it back, then you are out $20,000?

trader220 · 01-30-2006, 05:13 PM

Ebay will not do a thing to shill bidders. Ebay knows all about a great deal of the fraud that goes on and they do nothing other then make money off of it. I stopped pointing out the shill bidding that goes on a long time ago since eBay was more concerned with collecting the listing fees over and over as these items got relisted then stopping the shills. Its so bad in some ares that the same ID's bid on the same products over and over and over.