The ultimate 911 LEMON!!

[PK 77 911]

OMG Funny guy with a great attitude. Love the favourite comments. I look forward to hearing his final choice.

[christiandk]

No wonder our old aircooled cars keep appreciating in value.

If I were him I would take the money and buy a nice 964 or 993 plus a daily driver for when it rains.

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by wachuko

Yes...

Porsche problems update to the update - YouTube

He has been threatend with lawsuits for slander etc. by PNA. Pretty obvious from the strong backpedaling, imo.

[Zuluracerx]

Back pedaling? Come on, THIS car is a piece of **** and it took THIS kind of public pressure to force their hand. I love porsches, but porsche F'd up big time on this fiasco. I actually was considering a 991 until the GT3 meltdown and now this. I'll stick with the Mezger (08 GT2 for me thank you). Oh, and a manual gearbox

[billjam]

Originally Posted by christiandk

He has been threatend with lawsuits for slander etc. by PNA. Pretty obvious from the strong backpedaling, imo.

Get a grip!
I don't see any backpedaling by the owner ... but PCNA? Definitely.

A very classy "presentation" and a situation that has been very well handled IMO.

[Lapkritis]

Surprised nobody has mentioned the obvious yet... the rack might be the leak source.

[RichardNew]

I just know this car is coming to a Porsche dealer here in Florida. The tile will probably be be cleaned through Alabama - or some similar state. You can be sure Lemon Law Buyback won't be anyplace on the title.

We seem to get a lot of these cars.

Richard Newton

[wayner]

This latest video is enjoyable to watch.

It just goes to show what happens when a good company handles a good customer well. Congratulations to Porsche and to the video guy.

[boogie_man]

"I'll stick with the Mezger (08 GT2 for me thank you). Oh, and a manual gearbox "

Well, hell yeah I would too

[porschetub]

Surprising that PCNA let it get this far? why is this guy a dickhead ?,why reply with that ? he only wanted what he paid for and used the only means possible to make this happen.......great result.

These sorts of problems are documented with other high end luxury cars,the concensus seems to be manufacturers out sourcing more component parts to the cheapest bidder and a drop in quality results....these aren't my words but it makes some sense.

Don't see this car appearing anywhere else due to new issues that are bound to crop up in the future and the dealer knows that.

[Tippy]

He was far more level headed than I could have been. I hope he buys another and it turns out to be a great car for him.

[javadog]

It's funny how little we know about the situation, yet we are quick to blame PCNA for being in the wrong. Yes the car had defects. but...

How many of them were manuafacturing/component defects?
How many of them were caused by the dealership that worked on it?
Any of them related to the water leak? Was that an original problem, or did it surface later?
Was the water leak caused by an improper repair? Installation of the roof rack?
Did the damn little dog chew on anything important?

I can see things in the video that I know were a problem that resulted from the work that was done. I can see other problems that were likely caused by the technicians that worked on the car. It's also probable that the numerous trips to the service department and the numerous components replaced may have been a result of a technician not correctly diagnosing the original problem and throwing parts at it. It happens; many times because of how the manufacturers (largely don't) pay for warranty diagnosis work, Richard's thoughts notwithstanding.

I'd be willing to bet $100 that more than half of his problems were a result of faulty work done after the car was sold. Too bad we'll never know the whole story.

Some people say he showed class. I think the opposite, as none of this had to be aired in public. I also fault him for being disingenuous in his comments in the videos. He had no idea this would go viral. He had no intention of harming the Porsche brand. Bull****. Look at all of his other videos. He doesn't live his life in private; he puts as much of it as he can on film. What kind of guy does that?

I'm happy he's out from under this problem. I hope PCNA gets to the bottom of it. It would be nice if Paul Harvey were still around and we got to hear the rest of the story.

JR

[clutch-monkey]

Originally Posted by javadog

Some people say he showed class. I think the opposite, as none of this had to be aired in public.

maybe if porsche had done the right thing originally.. it would never have had to have been aired in public. people are so quick to lawyer up these days, especially in america, and it looks like he gave them time to correct it rather than lawyer up guns blazing.

[javadog]

Quote de javadog

Some people say he showed class. I think the opposite, as none of this had to be aired in public.

maybe if porsche had done the right thing originally.. it would never have had to have been aired in public.

What if it turned out that the majority of the problem was in fact a result of the dealer? Should PCNA be required to pay for the dealer's mistakes? If PCNA thought the dealer had a large part in this, would their original settlement offer look so bad? If he had been legally entitled to a full refund (unlikely) would the attorney he consulted not have told him to pursue it in court?

Lets face it, there's a lot we don't know and I'm not willing to throw Porsche under the bus without all the facts.

It's also possible that the PCNA employee he dealt with was a little wet behind the ears and I have seen the younger generation in the business works make some stupid decisions.

Hard to say.

JR

[clutch-monkey]

Originally Posted by javadog

What if it turned out that the majority of the problem was in fact a result of the dealer? Should PCNA be required to pay for the dealer's mistakes? If PCNA thought the dealer had a large part in this, would their original settlement offer look so bad? If he had been legally entitled to a full refund (unlikely) would the attorney he consulted not have told him to pursue it in court?

Lets face it, there's a lot we don't know and I'm not willing to throw Porsche under the bus without all the facts.

absolutely, the 60days in the shop at the local dealer could point to problems there, but at the end of the day they are licensed and approved by porsche to sell and represent the porsche product and brand, so yes as the dealer is an extension of themselves, porsche should come to the party about it and not fob off the blame.. and then deal with the dealer internally or whatever. i'd be pissed if i bought a faulty porsche product and they tried to weasel out of it by saying it was the dealer's fault and they had no responsibility for it. for all intents and purposes, the dealer IS porsche.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by javadog

Was the water leak caused by an improper repair? Installation of the roof rack?

That is plausible. Roof rack would be a hoot if it was the root cause.

Porsche drown their cars with water with a tech inside checking for leaks. It's their job.

I do not see Porsche Germany releasing this or any of their cars with a leak. Slim chance.

Did a truck transporter jack something up that had to be repaired while still brand new and a crap job was performed?

[javadog]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

the dealer IS porsche.

Only in your mind. Neither the dealer nor Porsche would agree with that.

I'm sure Porsche will be looking into this in the near future.

JR

[clutch-monkey]

Originally Posted by javadog

Only in your mind. Neither the dealer nor Porsche would agree with that.

I'm sure Porsche will be looking into this in the near future.

JR

if it was the dealers fault, hopefully porsche will stop money grubbing for 5 min and consider who they hand out their dealer licenses to..
i suspect nothing will happen though.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

if it was the dealers fault, hopefully porsche will stop money grubbing for 5 min and consider who they hand out their dealer licenses to..
i suspect nothing will happen though.

Don't be so sure of that. This is a b***h slap to Porsche. They are pissed off.

Let's look at BP and the oil spill. BP is tight on costs like all businesses. Halliburton, who injects cement into the casing, listens to what they are told to do. However, the field engineers/operators are Halliburton along with a BP "Company Man" or two.

They (collective) did not cement the casing effectively, IIRC.

BP is at fault and in this case, Porsche is at fault.

Non-routine incidents are tough.

BP oil spill: Ex-Halliburton manager pleads guilty to destroying evidence | Environment | theguardian.com

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

.... people are so quick to lawyer up these days, especially in america

Better call Saul.