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DRACO A5OG 04-17-2015 09:10 AM

THE Torque Spec List
 
I hope the Mods can see fit to making this a Sticky?

I don't know about you fellas but I hate it when I need a torque spec and it is like pulling teeth to find it. I use the 1/8" turn all the time but when it comes to critical items like the darn oil pressure fed chain tensioner Banjo Bolt at the Chain Cover. It drives me a CRAZY to no end :eek:

So Let me start it off. 2nd page is for the List. I will update as I get verified specs by Pelicans.

Jim

DRACO A5OG 04-17-2015 09:11 AM

The torque list
 
TORQUE LIST

Fitment-Bolt-Nut / Spec NM (ft.lbs.) / Member/s-Source
Disclaimer: Please confirm your Year/Model application

ENGINE

Banjo Bolt at Left Chain Tensioner Cover / 10.00 (07.39) / walt, Walt Frike
Drain Plug Engine / 70.00 (51.63) / PAG
Drain Plug Oil Tank / 42.00 (30.98) / PAG
Spark Plugs no anti-seize / 25.00-30.00 (18.44 - 22.13) / PAG, KTL

SUSPENSION

Wheel to Hub LUG NUTS / 130.00 (95.88) / PAG

GENERAL CHART


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...psqkrzvjdi.jpg
compliments of brother Gilles

KTL 04-17-2015 09:17 AM

This thread could go on for pages and pages........ Need to categorize it- engine, suspension, transmission, etc.

Shoot me your email and i'll hit you up with a pdf of the '84-'87 tech spec book like this. 135 pages of awesomeness............ :D Thank the Lord above for modern scanners with document feeders!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429291007.jpg

DRACO A5OG 04-17-2015 09:21 AM

Oh Snap, Thank you Brother KTL!

I was thinking just those Mystery Unpublished Fitments or Conflicting Specs published by Haynes or Bentley even superceded specs by PAG.

boyt911sc 04-17-2015 09:42 AM

They are available........
 
Jim,

I have similar problem like you and couldn't remember the correct spec after a week or two. So what I did was list down all the nuts and bolts torque spec used during an engine rebuild. Saved the data in my computer and a hard copy pasted on my notebook for easy access. All these information are available in the spec booklet, Bentley, and Wayne's 911 engine rebuild book. Even the torque sequences for crankcase, cylinder heads, cam towers, etc.

Last week, I misplaced my notebook and took me a while to remember where I saved the data in my computer. There are always small annoying things that occur in our daily activities. As you get older, you'll be more susceptible to this experience.

Tony

DRACO A5OG 04-17-2015 09:45 AM

A-men Brother Tony!

My wife is telling me I am starting to be a grumpy old man. I told her I've always been grumpy :D

Funny thing is I wrote it down on a darn post it and placed in the bentley, lost that post it so I wrote it in 3 places. :-o

tirwin 04-17-2015 09:54 AM

This is a great idea. I've been a torquing fool lately working on my engine and suspension. Nothing worse than having that vague notion in the back of your mind that there are specs for which the Bentley can't be trusted.

It would be great to specifically note "Bentley says X on page Y -- this is incorrect and should be Z"

I'm wondering if a better approach might be to create a spreadsheet that is publicly editable? Like something on Google Docs?

Then people could add different tabs for different categories and year models. You might want to put some thought into the initial structure and organization. Maybe you could start with what Tony has and add to it.

boyt911sc 04-17-2015 10:09 AM

Grumpy old man.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 8581856)
A-men Brother Tony!

My wife is telling me I am starting to be a grumpy old man. I told her I've always been grumpy :D

Funny thing is I wrote it down on a darn post it and placed in the bentley, lost that post it so I wrote it in 3 places. :-o


Hey Jim,

My grandchildren tease me by calling me Grumpa and got this for my birthday from my adorable spouse.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429293977.jpg

Tony

DRACO A5OG 04-17-2015 10:11 AM

^^^ See, this is what I am talking about. Smarter Peops than me to chime in. Love the idea. Like Wiki Torque Verifier of sorts :D

DRACO A5OG 04-17-2015 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 8581885)
Hey Jim,

My grandchildren tease me by calling me Grumpa and got this for my birthday from my adorable spouse.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429293977.jpg

Tony

LOVE IT. I want one , maybe a t-shirt :-) while working on my car.

zippy_gg 04-17-2015 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 8581799)
I hope the Mods can see fit to making this a Sticky?

I don't know about you fellas but I hate it when I need a torque spec and it is like pulling teeth to find it. I use the 1/8" turn all the time but when it comes to critical items like the darn oil pressure fed chain tensioner Banjo Bolt at the Chain Cover. It drives me a CRAZY to no end :eek:

So Let me start it off. 2nd page is for the List. I will update as I get verified specs by Pelicans.

Jim

Hey Jim, I emailed you a generic torque chart in PDF that will work for most of your needs

DRACO A5OG 04-17-2015 02:11 PM

Oh my, Thank You Brother Gilles!

rnln 04-17-2015 03:24 PM

is there one for 87-89 guys?

$ Short 04-17-2015 03:35 PM

+1 for 87-89

nene 04-17-2015 03:55 PM

Zippy or Draco,

Are you willing to share for an 86 Carrera in need of torqnumbers?


Serge

KTL 04-18-2015 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $ Short (Post 8582325)
+1 for 87-89

The above book covers '87 models. Not much changed in '88 & '89 in terms of general specifications for the 911 3.2. 930 finally got the G50/50 trans in '89

I would assume there's a spec book out there somewhere that covers the '88 and '89 models. I just happen to have the book that was issued around '86-'87 that includes only up to '87. I thought I had the next volume that includes '88 but I can't find it and i'm not cutting it up to scan it anyway! ;)

Karter18 04-18-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL (Post 8582822)
The above book covers '87 models. Not much changed in '88 & '89 in terms of general specifications for the 911 3.2. 930 finally got the G50/50 trans in '89

I would assume there's a spec book out there somewhere that covers the '88 and '89 models. I just happen to have the book that was issued around '86-'87 that includes only up to '87. I thought I had the next volume that includes '88 but I can't find it and i'm not cutting it up to scan it anyway! ;)

Huge thanks to Keving for sending the book!,,,,http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

Hawkeye's-911T 04-19-2015 09:51 AM

Is there a recommended source for us late 60's - early 70's guys?

Cheers
JB

DRACO A5OG 04-19-2015 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye's-911T (Post 8584289)
Is there a recommended source for us late 60's - early 70's guys?

Cheers
JB

Do you have a specific need or in general torque spec? I am sure there are members with the PAG spec book out there???

MSB911 04-19-2015 12:45 PM

Kevin,

Thanks so much for sending the Tech Specs, I really appreciate it!

Mark

DRACO A5OG 04-19-2015 12:47 PM

KTL is the MAN! :D

Jerome74911S 04-19-2015 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye's-911T (Post 8584289)
Is there a recommended source for us late 60's - early 70's guys?

Cheers
JB

This might do for part of what you ask about. Not perfect, but lots of info. I don't know if the email address is current.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429491569.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429491666.jpg

zippy_gg 04-19-2015 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nene (Post 8582353)
Zippy or Draco,

Are you willing to share for an 86 Carrera in need of torqnumbers?


Serge

Hi Serge, please check post #2 from Draco (Jim) as he posted additional information.;)

Hawkeye's-911T 04-20-2015 10:03 AM

Hey Thanks Jerome
I've just sent an e-mail to the address shown - hopefully, it works out..
Cheers
JB

universeman 04-20-2015 10:22 AM

Anyone know where an SC version of this Technical Specifications book could be found?

Funracer 09-21-2020 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by universeman (Post 8585998)
Anyone know where an SC version of this Technical Specifications book could be found?

No one?

delunaent 02-19-2023 10:20 AM

911 Manual
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL (Post 8581809)
This thread could go on for pages and pages........ Need to categorize it- engine, suspension, transmission, etc.

Shoot me your email and i'll hit you up with a pdf of the '84-'87 tech spec book like this. 135 pages of awesomeness............ :D Thank the Lord above for modern scanners with document feeders!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429291007.jpg

Would you please send me a copy of manual. Thank You.
delunaent@hotmail.com

AustinL 06-11-2023 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL (Post 8581809)
This thread could go on for pages and pages........ Need to categorize it- engine, suspension, transmission, etc.

Shoot me your email and i'll hit you up with a pdf of the '84-'87 tech spec book like this. 135 pages of awesomeness............ :D Thank the Lord above for modern scanners with document feeders!

Hi KTL, Would you mind emailing me a copy of this tech book please? I've tried to PM'ing you but keep getting error messages regarding user access http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/sad2.gif

My email is AustinLefevre@gmail.com

Thanks!

KTL 06-12-2023 06:03 PM

I sent you a sharing link via my google drive where I save/host the spec book

isby 06-13-2023 04:53 AM

Hi KTL- would you mind shooting me the link as well? I’m at ibergnyc@yahoo.com

Much appreciated.

MBAtarga 06-13-2023 06:32 AM

Please send me a link as well - mcclurgm@bellsouth.net

delunaent 07-18-2023 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL (Post 8581809)
This thread could go on for pages and pages........ Need to categorize it- engine, suspension, transmission, etc.

Shoot me your email and i'll hit you up with a pdf of the '84-'87 tech spec book like this. 135 pages of awesomeness............ :D Thank the Lord above for modern scanners with document feeders!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429291007.jpg

Delunaent@outlook.com please send me the torque specs for 1982 911 turbo for engine rebuild. I appreciate your assistance. Thank You.

proporsche 07-19-2023 07:52 AM

Boys, i wonder if you know you can get the factory original specification books at our host??
like this one..45 buck well spent

https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/WKD422720.htm?pn=WKD-422-720-OEM&bc=c&SVSVSI=

Link69 04-11-2024 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL (Post 8581809)
This thread could go on for pages and pages........ Need to categorize it- engine, suspension, transmission, etc.

Shoot me your email and i'll hit you up with a pdf of the '84-'87 tech spec book like this. 135 pages of awesomeness............ :D Thank the Lord above for modern scanners with document feeders!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429291007.jpg

Do you have anything for the early 930's? I have a 78 turbo I need torque specs for.

Thanks in advance 🙂

Link69 04-11-2024 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye's-911T (Post 8585953)
Hey Thanks Jerome
I've just sent an e-mail to the address shown - hopefully, it works out..
Cheers
JB

Did you get anything out of the email you sent to this company??

wazzz 04-11-2024 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Link69 (Post 12230318)
Do you have anything for the early 930's? I have a 78 turbo I need torque specs for.

Thanks in advance 🙂

You can have the engine torque specs for turbo 3.3 here:
https://www.torkspec.com/torkspecme.aspx?KI=34-3.3L-199ci-F6-930

ErrorMargin 04-11-2024 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 8581799)
I will update as I get verified specs by Pelicans.

I've been building my list for my 84 Targa engine out project. This is incomplete, but here is what I have so far:

Edit: I'll work to add all the thread sizes before I put this back up.

rsscotty 04-11-2024 11:25 AM

From post above.....torque specs need to be accurate and associated with specific years, complete with thread size like Porsche does in their spec books. I don't like any guessing or misinterpreting on this.



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ErrorMargin 04-11-2024 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsscotty (Post 12230437)
From post above.....torque specs need to be accurate and associated with specific years, complete with thread size like Porsche does in their spec books. I don't like any guessing or misinterpreting on this.

I did note this was for my 1984 Targa and I did note where I was unsure.

wazzz 04-11-2024 11:43 PM

And yes, 90 Nm is right for all years.
Go to https://www.torkspec.com/torkspecme.aspx?KI=34-3.2L-193ci-F6-911 and you'll have a good list of torque specs for 3.2 engine.

And for other Porsche engines, go up one level and choose your flavor:
https://www.torkspec.com/torkspecme.aspx?KI=34


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