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Tippy 10-26-2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NICE 69 S (Post 9334557)
Quite a project. Just wondering why you didn't rotate the throttle bodies 180 and put the fuel bars in the middle. That would have given a straighter line into the intake port if the manifolds were cast with a slight offset to the valve cover sides.
Bob B

I've never seen that done that way?

quattrorunner 10-26-2016 12:56 PM

wow

Clay.0 11-02-2016 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 9333757)
Whoa! Nice project! I too went down this path but stopped for various reasons.

I also had that exact Triumph. Bike was a turd, so you're finally using the ITB's for a good purpose! HAHA ;)

One caution, I'd ditch that AEM dizzy adapter, it is not accurate enough in my opinion for what you're doing.

If it were fuel only, I'd say it'd be ok, but if full ignition control, I'd be hesitant using that.

Think gear lash and what that equates to in degrees!!!

Go with a crank trigger from GoingSuperFast.

Thanks man, interesting on the EPM. Any more info on the issues? From what i've seen it's supposed to be more accurate than a trigger wheel setup, plus it provides a cam position signal.


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Originally Posted by Ferrino (Post 9334438)
Amazing work - thanks for sharing! Having your manifold design cast is baller! I think I will go with that Bussmann unit for my Microsquirt project - the tutorial you linked to looks excellent.

Can you elaborate on why you switched from cable to a solid linkage, please?

Thanks! Honestly, the reason I went to the solid linkage is because i think it looks cool. I'm sure the cable setup would have worked fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NICE 69 S (Post 9334557)
Quite a project. Just wondering why you didn't rotate the throttle bodies 180 and put the fuel bars in the middle. That would have given a straighter line into the intake port if the manifolds were cast with a slight offset to the valve cover sides. Bob B

The way it is now is a good balance of the injector path and airflow into the intake port.

As noted above, when i first set these up I was going to use cable linkage. The way the linkage hooks up to the ITB's is on the fuel rail side. This would have allowed the bellcrank in the middle of the engine, with the cables running under the ITB's to hook up to the ITB linkage. It could have worked the other way around, but it would have been tight. This configuration gave me a little more room with the cables to sweep around.

Also for my fuel setup I was mimicking the fuel setup from a 3.2 with the fuel rails on the outside.

Clay.0 11-11-2016 03:29 PM

Wiring has continued

All new connectors and terminals were used for every plug.

Insulators on the coil pack wires

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps0ukghwyt.jpg

Wires stripped

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps9cz8swws.jpg

Terminals crimped

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...pskdcfco1y.jpg

Braided wire wrap on

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps1ydg73pw.jpg

Plug on, heat shrink shrunk

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psjjrodgd0.jpg

And repeat

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...pso94xaprn.jpg

Tippy 11-11-2016 03:43 PM

Beautiful wiring job! When I redo mine, I'm going to crimp rather solder, so 0 splices.

merlinfe 11-12-2016 05:06 PM

Clay,

Where did you get the rod for the bell crank on the manifold? Also, what bushing did you use on the passenger side to mount the armature linkage?

-Steve

DeRRis 11-13-2016 08:26 AM

Hello Clay,

Is there any chance I could buy a pair of your intake manifolds?

Clay.0 11-13-2016 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by merlinfe (Post 9357113)
Clay,

Where did you get the rod for the bell crank on the manifold? Also, what bushing did you use on the passenger side to mount the armature linkage?

-Steve

I had a few of the pivot rods made for the manifolds. The bushing are part of Al's linkage kit.

CBRacerX 11-13-2016 05:10 PM

Very nice work. Tempted to follow in your footsteps, which means I have the same question as DeRRis.

Tremelune 11-14-2016 02:55 PM

Mesmerizing.

Tom_in_NH 11-15-2016 08:49 AM

I'd also like to know what I can do to acquire a set of your manifolds Clay.

DeRRis 11-15-2016 08:53 AM

I ordered them from Clay through his website

CCM Triumph ITB Manifolds - Closed Course Motorsport

Clay.0 11-15-2016 02:21 PM

Dennis - I appreciate the plug, but let's try to keep this thread about the build!

While the wiring was moving, I also worked on the fuel.

The car was setup previously with Weber's and had a low pressure fuel pump installed.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psusysmd2j.jpg

I used an AEM unit to replace it.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psyqrujxeu.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psumvyryei.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psujzbaucy.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psvrer4wbz.jpg

Clay.0 11-24-2016 07:27 AM

So more wiring. I missed this pre-install pic of the main harness

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psisfxer0p.jpg

Laying out the wire runs to all of the sensors

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psnui34kof.jpg

And installed a -6AN fuel line between the two rails

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5550/3...55457ce8_c.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5769/3...e28dbf07_c.jpg

Vacuum lines from each TB to a vacuum manifold

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5459/3...2f4ec28c_c.jpg

Clay.0 11-24-2016 12:35 PM

The injectors are 30lb units supplied by Rasant Products

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5775/3...2e15fc5c_c.jpg

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5643/3...1fba3cb2_c.jpg

The coil packs are Audi 2.0T units, these are a little long but do the job for now. There is a short variant that i'll be switching to shortly.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5549/3...3a661104_c.jpg

For oil pressure, I used a universal 0-100psi 0-5v sensor with an adapter at the high pressure port location

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5772/3...dcbdb4cf_c.jpg

This is the fitting - M10x1.0 M10 1.0 1/8 NPT Oil Fitting Pressure Tee T Adapter

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/161914...0/s-l140/p.jpg

For oil temp, I used an AEM 1/8 NPT temp sender with a Auto Meter 2267 Oil/Temperature Metric Adapter in the cam cover

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5819/3...7ab06ddc_c.jpg

For IAT, I used an AEM 1/8 NPT unit that I drilled and tapped into one of the ITBs

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5524/3...cca28f1e_c.jpg

As noted previously, I used an universal vacuum manifold to collect all the vacuum lines off the ITBs. This serves the GM 1 bar map sensor and vacuum reference for the fuel pressure regulator

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5468/3...236266b7_c.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5761/3...3a8afb65_c.jpg

I also added a spring to the bellcrank linkage to help the throttle return

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5697/3...d02c99fa_c.jpg

Ferrino 11-24-2016 02:10 PM

Wonderful stuff - I especially like your photography. Regarding the Audi COPs - I picked up a used one just to see how it would sit against the holes in the valve covers and mine was just loose in there - really didn't like that. I guess you could put some sort of spacer ring in there. Do the shorter ones actually rest against the covers?

Tippy 11-24-2016 02:17 PM

Beautiful install!! I'm in your town as we speak.

Mick_D 11-24-2016 02:18 PM

That's pretty sweet, CLay. One day I'll want to do something very similar. Those Triumph ITBS look great!

JohnJL 11-24-2016 02:30 PM

Kudos, nice adventurism, creativity, documentation and bravery. Keep it coming.

Tippy 11-24-2016 02:36 PM

What crimper are you using? Are they double-crimp?


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