16×8″ and 16×9″ Fuchs FS on BaT

[famoroso]

Seems a lil' weird to post BaT links here, but I guess that in 2022, in the words of Mando... This is the way:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/porsche-fuchs-alloy-wheels/

[Jonny042]

Nice wheels! GLWA

[famoroso]

Originally Posted by Jonny042

Nice wheels! GLWA

Thanks. The cash will go to my '89 build and the storage space will come in handy too.

[Jonny042]

Originally Posted by famoroso

Thanks. The cash will go to my '89 build and the storage space will come in handy too.

Is that shell out of body/paint purgatory yet? Almost afraid to ask.

[famoroso]

Originally Posted by Jonny042

Is that shell out of body/paint purgatory yet? Almost afraid to ask.

It is... NOT! Which is a bummer. :-(

[Racerbvd]

Wow, congratulations on the sale, has me tempted to list a few of my sets.

[Jonny042]

WOW? More like LOL!

Congrats to Frank, but to the buyer, WTF?

[zztot]

So this is NOT a facetious question……. New OEM Fuchs are available for reasonable dollars. Help me understand the logic of the pricing on this sale.
I have a set of 8s and 9s (16) and was trying to decide which to sell. Found new 9s are selling for a lot less I thought mine were worth ……..then determined that 8s were more valuable as new ones were not being made as yet.
Thanks
(Oh yeah I signed up for ADT on my garage&#128527

[mepstein]

BAT buyers are nuts but good for you.

[pkabush]

It’s really perplexing how anyone could spend that much on a set of Fuchs.
Unless they’re 73 9&11x15s.
Once again proving that BAT buyers have way more money than brains.
Good for you though for getting all the money Frank

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by pkabush

It’s really perplexing how anyone could spend that much on a set of Fuchs.
Unless they’re 73 9&11x15s.
Once again proving that BAT buyers have way more money than brains.
Good for you though for getting all the money Frank

Those would be a lot more than $10,000.
I have a pair of 9x15s with a 71 date code, would be interesting to see what they might bring, but then I would have em for my 914-6 GT clone.

[famoroso]

Gee guys, I'm not sure what to say. I felt I overpaid for them back in 2018 when I was in a bind. I was either wrong or like they say in the business... You didn't overpay, you just bought too early.

Unfortunately, this is where our hobby has gone to. On the one hand, I like that my cars and parts are worth more than when I acquired them, but, in reality, I'd prefer things weren't so irrationally exuberant. I don't want to divest my cars, I want to acquire more of them (and the parts to keep all of them on the road). I'm afraid that the more valuable they get, the less they'll get used.

After this set of Fuchs leave the building (shipping, with insurance, across the country is PRICEY), I'll be down to three and a half sets, including two sets of 7&9x16 Fuchs Evos. I LOVE the Fuchs Evos, so much so that I'm contemplating acquiring a set in 8&10x18 for a 993 that I don't even own yet.

@zztot As you may be aware and to partially answer your question, the 951 8" Fuchs are, as of yet, unavailable from Fuchs Felgen. The 951 8s fit the front of 911s / 930s / '86 944 Turbos and are considerably harder to source than the more common 911 rear 8s (that do not fit the front). I keep asking Fuchs for 951 8" availability though. Still no estimated production date. So, in the case of my auction, you had a set of the most aggressive 16" OE Fuchs fitments, in great matching condition (paint, anodizing, patina, etc), available as a package right now.

Pelicans, and car people in general, like to complain about BaT buyers, but the market is hyper efficient. There are people that don't have the time to spend hours per week on internet forums, but they have the wherewithal to pay prices that many consider exorbitant. I've unsubscribed from the BaT daily email as the transaction prices for cars I'd like to own have gotten depressing.

Can you IMAGINE if I'd listed these 8&9 Fuchs here for $10k? I shudder at what the response woulda been. Crickets? Lambasting? Both? I've experienced the following here...

Check out this listing...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/1077792-964-speedster-america-roadster-rear-seat-delete.html

I originally asked $1,750 here.
I barely got a response (someone offered $500, but IDK if he was serious)
Two weeks later, it sells on Pcarmarket For $2,660 ($2,926 with buyer's premium). The guy picks it up the next morning(!), on Thanksgiving, and pays me in cash.

Here's another story. I listed these 7s&9s here for $3,300 in July 2020...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/1066664-7-9-x-16-fuchs-black-centers-w-polished-lips-robert-wood.html
No response. Five months later, they sold for... $3,300 in one week on BaT. The buyer coulda saved $165 if he'd seen them here on Pelican, while they languished for five months.

It's a shame, but Pelican Parts Forums may not be the best place to list premium parts. I wish it were otherwise.

[Jonny042]

Great post, Frank.

Has Fuchsfelge acknowledged the market for the 951 16 x 8's and confirmed they're in the queue for manufacture? I'd love to go to 16x8 and 16x9 with 225/245 tires, but apparently I can't afford it! But it'll be a fun combo when I can buy them new. Even at $900 a wheel that's not really in the budget but doable at least.

Originally Posted by famoroso

Gee guys, I'm not sure what to say. I felt I overpaid for them back in 2018 when I was in a bind. I was either wrong or like they say in the business... You didn't overpay, you just bought too early.

Unfortunately, this is where our hobby has gone to. On the one hand, I like that my cars and parts are worth more than when I acquired them, but, in reality, I'd prefer things weren't so irrationally exuberant. I don't want to divest my cars, I want to acquire more of them (and the parts to keep all of them on the road). I'm afraid that the more valuable they get, the less they'll get used.

After this set of Fuchs leave the building (shipping, with insurance, across the country is PRICEY), I'll be down to three and a half sets, including two sets of 7&9x16 Fuchs Evos. I LOVE the Fuchs Evos, so much so that I'm contemplating acquiring a set in 8&10x18 for a 993 that I don't even own yet.

@zztot As you may be aware and to partially answer your question, the 951 8" Fuchs are, as of yet, unavailable from Fuchs Felgen. The 951 8s fit the front of 911s / 930s / '86 944 Turbos and are considerably harder to source than the more common 911 rear 8s (that do not fit the front). I keep asking Fuchs for 951 8" availability though. Still no estimated production date. So, in the case of my auction, you had a set of the most aggressive 16" OE Fuchs fitments, in great matching condition (paint, anodizing, patina, etc), available as a package right now.

Pelicans, and car people in general, like to complain about BaT buyers, but the market is hyper efficient. There are people that don't have the time to spend hours per week on internet forums, but they have the wherewithal to pay prices that many consider exorbitant. I've unsubscribed from the BaT daily email as the transaction prices for cars I'd like to own have gotten depressing.

Can you IMAGINE if I'd listed these 8&9 Fuchs here for $10k? I shudder at what the response woulda been. Crickets? Lambasting? Both? I've experienced the following here...

Check out this listing...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/1077792-964-speedster-america-roadster-rear-seat-delete.html

I originally asked $1,750 here.
I barely got a response (someone offered $500, but IDK if he was serious)
Two weeks later, it sells on Pcarmarket For $2,660 ($2,926 with buyer's premium). The guy picks it up the next morning(!), on Thanksgiving, and pays me in cash.

Here's another story. I listed these 7s&9s here for $3,300 in July 2020...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/1066664-7-9-x-16-fuchs-black-centers-w-polished-lips-robert-wood.html
No response. Five months later, they sold for... $3,300 in one week on BaT. The buyer coulda saved $165 if he'd seen them here on Pelican, while they languished for five months.

It's a shame, but Pelican Parts Forums may not be the best place to list premium parts. I wish it were otherwise.

[RarlyL8]

Congrats to you Frank!
You probably know that I sold a set of 7&9x16 Fuchs on BaT last week. Mine were brand new in the box never mounted. The set was bought in 2010 from Einmalig Porsche so the date codes were not desirable but the part numbers were correct. The range I was expecting them to sell for was $5k-$9k based on previous BaT sales data. Your sale made me re-think what it is that buyers are looking for. 8&9x16 Fuchs never came factory on anything, yet the set sold for record money. Gives me hope for all the mixing and matching I can do with the Fuchs I have when the times comes to sell them. Parts prices are getting down right goofy. I sold my Carrera with freshly refinished factory Fuchs, if I had it to do again I'd sell the wheels separately. As for the factory 11x15 Fuchs I sold in the late 90's for $1000, I guess didn't sell them too cheap I just sold too soon, ha! All that aside it does sadden me that the golden era of affordable air cooled hot rodding is gone. It sure was fun, I'm grateful to have been a part of it!

[famoroso]

Originally Posted by Jonny042

Great post, Frank.

Has Fuchsfelge acknowledged the market for the 951 16 x 8's and confirmed they're in the queue for manufacture? I'd love to go to 16x8 and 16x9 with 225/245 tires, but apparently I can't afford it! But it'll be a fun combo when I can buy them new. Even at $900 a wheel that's not really in the budget but doable at least.

I've been asking the US distributor since late 2019. The answer has not changed...

"No updates from Fuchs on the 16x8 with 23.3 offset, all we were told was it was on the list to do."

I spoke to them at the Lit Show. Still no update.

I ran 225/50 up front, I'd go with 225/45 next time. In fact, I'm eyeballing A052s in 225/45 & 245/45. Gripalicious!