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Engine removal question
ok well today i started the process of removing the engine. Im to the point where its time to take it out, but im not too sure on where to attach the hoist.
I see the ring in the rear of the engine on the passenger side of the car, but is that the correct place to attach the hoist. And shouldnt there be another one up front to support the front of the engine? Right now im eyeing the intake manifold, but I dont really want to have to do that. The other question is: Should i take it out the top or the bottom? From what I understand if i remove the radiator and the fans (which i did) then it should be as simple as unbolting the torque tube, sliding the engine foward to disengage the drive shaft, and then it should come up with little problem. If i do all that do i still have to unbolt the crossmember? Oh if anyone knows where i can get an engine rebuild kit, let me know, i think im going to just do a full rebuild while i've got the chance.
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bah ! you pelicans let me down. Its time to go get it the rest of the way out. Oh well.
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Most having dinner then watching a bit of TV then sleeping. Do a search.
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Yeah, the ring at the back is a lifting ring. There should be another lifting ring hiding under the alternator. Take that out and have at 'er.
Go out the top - remove the hood. Out the bottom - jack the thing way up and slide.
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An automatic requires a slightly different removal method. You have to remove the starter and unbolt the rubber center drive shaft adaptor from the light weight flywheel. There is a clip on the end of the drive shaft that you can not get to. Once the adaptor is unbolted you have to unbolt the engine from the bell housing leaving the bell housing bolted to the torque tube.
You can not remove an automatic based engine the same way as a manual shift and clutch engine.
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P.S. Take off the sensor bracket first.
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so basically, i have to take off the sensor bracket to get to this clip, and then once im done with that, unbolt the bellhousing from the engine. And what does the clip do? Hold the drive shaft in place?
edit: just read and understood unbolt rubber center adaptor from the flywheel, and the drive shaft will then come off... awesome thanks
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Not exactly.
Remove the starter. Unbolt the nine fasteners around the rubber drive shaft damper on the flywheel. You have to turn the engine over with a socket on the crank pulley bolt. Remove the sensors bracket and all. Unbolt the bell housing from the engine. Unbolt the engine from the two side engine mounts. Slide the engine forware a few inches and lift it out leaving the rubber damper and bell housing and torq tube behind. Yes you do have to lower or remove the cross member or the oil pan hits it.
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Of course there is the exhaust and radiator tubing and heater tubing and such.
I pull the fuel rail injectors and all laying it in the basin with the fresh air blower. Good time to replace the fuel lines.
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Ok thanks alot for the clairfication... i spent a good amount of time wondering why the driveshaft wouldnt slide off yesterday... Everything is already disconnected and the crossmember is dropped and everything, i was at the point of lifting the engine out of the car but the driveshaft wouldnt come free... guess i know what the problem is. Thanks alot socal.
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I pulled and installed an automatic engine into my manual. Had the same "problem" until I read the manuals. Did find that the pilot bearing was basically new because the drive shaft does not rotate seperately from the flywheel.
That clip on the end of the drive shaft is to keep the drive shaft and the torq converter from sliding into the automatic trans. This will ruin the torq converter and the trans. You may want to do a critical inspection of the rubber damper as this will age and seperate.
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Id like to add that I do believe that SoCal Driver seems to know a lot about 944's. Hes helped me in the past with a couple of things. Thanks a lot.
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well this engine wont go back into the same car, since its wrecked. Im going to probably rebuild the engine, make a few mods, and then find someone who busted their timing belt and wants to sell the car. As a result the engine its self will be mated to a manual transmission.
Wanna give me a hint as to how to mount this thing onto an engine stand, i dont see anywhere int he block to put the supports for the stand
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Try that again George. He has to take the engine off at the bell housing leaving the bell housing behind -- automatic.
Use the bell housing to engine block holes as I did for the engine sittting on a stand in my garage. Use the bolts you take out.
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Sorry, I was unclear.
Use the holes in the block that the bell housing bolts go into. That better??? gb
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The "automatic" threw me off at the start too. Not many around.
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I liked removing the automatic engine. A bit of a pain to get the nine bolts and the bell housing loose but it just pops out after that.
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