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[PhillysMostWntd]

yeah chip burner, does alot, if you get chrome pro you can tune your car in real time.

i've been thinking about this alot, i really want to get my 944 back up to shape and take a stab at this, maybe when i'm done with school though who knows, i think it be really fun.

[DMRK]

Where can you download chrome?

[PhillysMostWntd]

http://www.tunewithcrome.com/ is where you can download chrome, problem is, its obd1 only though, the same concept needs to be applied to our cars (obd0 cars right?)

check out http://forum.pgmfi.org/index.php, there's probabably something to be found there that can easily be applied to our 944's.

i'll do some research and see if there's a program that's pretty much ready to use for our cars.

[PhillysMostWntd]

on another note, does anyone know of what FR wilk used to write the programs for his chips? that would be EXACTLY the kind of thing you could use to write a chip for boost. i remember he could tweak the fuel and ignition maps before he sent the chip out to you. something along those lines would nail it.

anyone care to explain (or post a link) on where to find more information about our fuel injection system?

[PhillysMostWntd]

sorry my mind is getting filled with ideas, did anyone ever come out with an affordable (or somewhat affordable) maf conversion? i remeber FR had one in the works, x3m944 also (i heard he ended up scamming everyone on here with his s/c kit? is this true?)

tuning would be much much easier with the MAF then the AFM i would think

[bholmes]

I'm not sure what chip burner wilks uses, also russel berry can burn chips like you're talkin about and custom tailor them to your specs.

as far as the MAF goes...I know at one point Sid (blown 944) was working on putting a MAF off of a saab on his supercharged car. I know he did it successfully, but the sensor went bad and I'm not sure if he ever got a new one or went back to AFM. But the AFM is a terrible restriction to the car as well.

[PhillysMostWntd]

interesting, hows the cost for his services? the problem with buying a chip from someone else, is that you will need that program on hand once again when you get onto a dyno to fine tune it, a base map is what it is, a starting point for fine tuning.

the MAF issue definately needs to be adressed, maybe

[PhillysMostWntd]

interesting, hows the cost for his services? the problem with buying a chip from someone else, is that you will need that program on hand once again when you get onto a dyno to fine tune it, a base map is what it is, a starting point for fine tuning. guess i'll be hitting the searches again.

the MAF issue definately needs to be adressed, maybe Sid can shed some light on this.

[bholmes]

If I remeber correctly Russel had told me he could and would tailor a custom chip for the car, then using a data aquisition system reading a/f ratios and egt he would reburn the chip for free until it was tuned correctly. This may have been a one time offer, I don't know what his interest is for doing this sort of deal is. But he had offered to do it for my for about $250. I'm sure that's subject to change. But I think it's a very viable option for a turbo conversion. The only instance where a system like mega squirt would be considerably better is if you were constantly changing things (Sid, LOL).

[blown 944]

I was actually using an Audi sensor

I havn't gotten back around to testing MAF sensors lately,but what I have learned since starting to toy with the 951 is that even if you get the chip close to perfect having a small piggy back with any MAF is really necessary. The temp changes can effect a turbo setup greatly and having the PB can help keep it tuned perfect.

The next MAF I am going to try to use is one off of a mid 90's ford taurus 3.0l. I tried one off of my daughters car when she had it and it matched my AFM better than the Audi unit.

As far as the max chips after talking with Russell I imagine that if you have a certain power level in mind that a chip can be burned and then you would data log using wideband and then he could get you very close and it wasn't going to be too pricey.

I personally would most likely need the maxtune setup,MS, or some variant of EM.

I will be speaking with him soon again to try to get something together for some safety for the other folks who are supercharging. After learning a bit more about the DME it shouldn't be too hard to get a pretty good baseline tune so anyone who decides to do what I have done could do it w/o having to purchase the RRFPR, and any timing control, or use methanol as much.

If this can come to fruition is would really simplify installing a supercharger and running about 10-12 psi.

[bholmes]

That's awsome news about the chip you and russel are working on! Hope that pans out. I think that is typically one of the largest deturents.

[blown 944]

Brian rather than PM, I just looked again for the missing injector and just can't find it

[bholmes]

Ok, i appreciate it regardless!

[PhillysMostWntd]

interesting, his price seems pretty fair. would he be dyno tuning it under different loads or?

i'm liking how more people are being adventurous about this, Sid do you have a link with some pics of your setup?

one concern is the "freshness" of engines, is anyone attempting this on their stock engine (no new gaskets, etc.) or? i would think it be a bad idea, but you never know.

[bholmes]

Sid's little mule (correct me if i'm wrong sid) is almost completely stock except and upgraded head gasket...that's almost a must. And of course injectors and regulator and supercharger and meth injection...but the rotating assembly and rings and the like are stock.

Sid, I have a set of injectors on the way! Should be here tomorrow.

[blown 944]

Haven't spoken in depth at all about this but what I would do is datalog my A/f and figure what amount of fuel is being used and then have a chip burned that was around teh same usage with less tinming and then datalog a couple of more times to get it right or just get teh maxtune ,MS or something that I can play witha nd then send the bin files to have them burned try that chip as is. I think this would be a good idea to have setup for others.

Thats good Brian, sorry i still can't find it

[bholmes]

Well, after a clutch failure my car has (and continues to) sat for months. None the less fate as acquired me some parts for the turbo conversion should I hang onto my machine. I got a set of 36# fuel injectors, an IHI turbo that is in very good condition as far as bearings and such goes, another intercooler and some other various parts. Here's a few pictures of my new (free) goodies.

[83-911SC cab]

Originally Posted by Eldorado

I'll eat my underwear if you, first of all *fit* that thing into your 944, and secondly get it running in driving condition...

Hey Kyle there is no part of you eating your underwear that any of us should have to envision. Whether it is you wearing edible undies (what's your fav flavor) or you eating normal ones (skid marks optional).

Gregg

[bholmes]

Wtf Lol