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you can only run the hole course at the ring there is a town in the center of it . they do not add in the race track that is there that is a hole other track .
the jag that was on top gear did the lap in 9 minutes 12 seconds with a diesel S-Type .
i owned a 355 ferrari they are pigs ! they do handle good but hp and tork not that good at all .
if you have ever run at the ring you will know that 8 minute laps are average for many cars . even low hp and tork cars .
most of us just use GPS timing but they do hold timed events at the ring quight often . my lap ticket from there i have states 7:59.006 . now i will have to add that i have been racing from the age of 17 and do race in the ALMS with a GT3 RS i also race my old 962 6 to 10 times a year . with that being said if a gt3 only turned a lap of 8:03 the driver should take his foot off the brake or take the E-brake off .
it is not uncommon at all because of the quality of drivers to get much deferent times even in the same car . case in point is just look at lap times of 944's at porsche events .
You currently race in ALMS?? For who?

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The factory Porsche driver only got the GT3 around in 7:40 and your telling me you can get a stock 540 around in under 8 minutes.

I dont believe it man.

For ref a 98 M5 was 8:28

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The factory Porsche driver only got the GT3 around in 7:40 and your telling me you can get a stock 540 around in under 8 minutes.

I dont believe it man.

For ref a 98 M5 was 8:28
good i don't want you to !

because from the sound of it you don't race and would know nothing about it . you would also know that it's all about knowing the track your running at . a 12.9 mile track is a hard thing to learn . it takes many laps to know a track . being a factory driver is kind of meaning less . hell i was one for 4 years when i was a young man !
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good i don't want you to !

because from the sound of it you don't race and would know nothing about it . you would also know that it's all about knowing the track your running at . a 12.9 mile track is a hard thing to learn . it takes many laps to know a track . being a factory driver is kind of meaning less . hell i was one for 4 years when i was a young man !
But again, ALMS?? Sorry, I'm just really interested, I follow those races VERY closely!
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it does not matter who i am or what i have done !

i don't want you to believe it ! MAN
you don't race so trying to tell some one that has little or no track time is very pointless .

again if you race you would know 1st hand that 1 the same car with deferent driver does not trun the same lap time .
2 you have to know the track . a 12.9 mile track is very hard to learn . even a twisty 2 mile track takes time to learn .
even a factory driver may not know the track like the back of his hand . again it takes many laps to learn the ring being 12.9 miles long .
then there are fast times and there are average times .

but again some one that does not race it's very pointless to try and explain any thing to .
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it does not matter who i am or what i have done !

i don't want you to believe it ! MAN
you don't race so trying to tell some one that has little or no track time is very pointless .

again if you race you would know 1st hand that 1 the same car with deferent driver does not trun the same lap time .
2 you have to know the track . a 12.9 mile track is very hard to learn . even a twisty 2 mile track takes time to learn .
even a factory driver may not know the track like the back of his hand . again it takes many laps to learn the ring being 12.9 miles long .
then there are fast times and there are average times .

but again some one that does not race it's very pointless to try and explain any thing to .
was that to me? Just curious that's all, thought it was cool that you race in the races I watch.

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good i don't want you to !

because from the sound of it you don't race and would know nothing about it . you would also know that it's all about knowing the track your running at . a 12.9 mile track is a hard thing to learn . it takes many laps to know a track . being a factory driver is kind of meaning less . hell i was one for 4 years when i was a young man !
Ok calm down - Still dont believe you did a 8minute lap in a 540 around there. unless you are actually Derek Bell maybe.

Porsche go round and round the nurburgring mulltiple times and there is also the whole GTR vs 911 marketing thing. I would just think if there was a guy out there such as yourself that could get a what i can only assume is a stock e39 540 around the ring 30 seconds faster than a e39 M5 then they would have you driving for them.

an 8min lap in a stock 540 is incredibly quick. The RUF yellowbird comes in at around 8.

Still if you are Derek Bell - kudos to you
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Speaking of Derek Bell, the Mid-Ohio Challenge is tomorrow, you can bet I'll be screaming for Flying Lizard!!!
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And don't forget that a 'Ring taxi driver Sabine Schmidt beat the Jag's time in a box-stock Ford Transit panelvan!.
Not quite... the Jag time was 9:59 and she did it in 10:08. But she did beat his time in a Jag by 47 seconds with a time of 9:12.

The best shot were the guys on super bike being pass by a Ford Transit van driven by a women

She is quite an achiever; most lap at the track, helicopter pilot and so on; Sabine Schmitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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stats from the ring
camaro 7:41.27
vette 7:41.27
C6 vette 7:19.
GT3 7:34
GT2 7:18

if you think that a m5 is reallythat much faster than a 540i6 it just shows you realy know nothing about cars . the two cars are classed in the same class when raced . depending on the m5 your talking about it only has 311 hp over 282 of the 540 tork is not much deferent too . weight is the same at 3600 lbs . because you can chip the cars in the SSU class they run in and you can remove the speed limiter of 155 the cars are still in a stock class . the 5 series are also classed with the corvette ,camaro, porsche 911's , lotus v8's and turbos , audi a8's , saleen and rousch mustangs . all lambo models , toy twin turbo's , and the list goes on and on .

back to knowing tracks , what the weather is like hot or a cold day ,tires temps and so on the amount of cars you have to get past all have to do with lap times . if your running there time attack events it is nothing like open track days were every one and there brother is out there with you . but again if you ever run any track events you would know that .

as for me i was a factory driver for a well known major car co. for 4 plus year when i was much younger . when i worked for porsche for 7 years they had 38 factory race drivers and 19 inhouse factory test drivers . being a factory driver is not all that at all . hell audi has 66 of them right now . one of my best friends is one he did the testing on the r8's .

now it has been years from when i saw the top gear show with the ford van . but did she not pass a dodge viper ?

like i said i'm very glad you don't think i turned my fastes time in just under 8 minutes there .
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now it has been years from when i saw the top gear show with the ford van . but did she not pass a dodge viper ?
The viper was leading the van so it could attempt to get a faster time. My 2 cents.

And to answer the original question, there aren't any official 951 'ring times that have been reported. There are, however, good and bad drivers going around in a 951 turbo/turbo S on youtube.
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camaro 7:41.27
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C6 vette 7:19.
GT3 7:34
GT2 7:18

if you think that a m5 is reallythat much faster than a 540i6 it just shows you realy know nothing about cars . the two cars are classed in the same class when raced . depending on the m5 your talking about it only has 311 hp over 282 of the 540 tork is not much deferent too . weight is the same at 3600 lbs . because you can chip the cars in the SSU class they run in and you can remove the speed limiter of 155 the cars are still in a stock class . the 5 series are also classed with the corvette ,camaro, porsche 911's , lotus v8's and turbos , audi a8's , saleen and rousch mustangs . all lambo models , toy twin turbo's , and the list goes on and on .

back to knowing tracks , what the weather is like hot or a cold day ,tires temps and so on the amount of cars you have to get past all have to do with lap times . if your running there time attack events it is nothing like open track days were every one and there brother is out there with you . but again if you ever run any track events you would know that .

as for me i was a factory driver for a well known major car co. for 4 plus year when i was much younger . when i worked for porsche for 7 years they had 38 factory race drivers and 19 inhouse factory test drivers . being a factory driver is not all that at all . hell audi has 66 of them right now . one of my best friends is one he did the testing on the r8's .

now it has been years from when i saw the top gear show with the ford van . but did she not pass a dodge viper ?

like i said i'm very glad you don't think i turned my fastes time in just under 8 minutes there .
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