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When it rains.....see if you can guess the cause
Throwing this one out as a quiz, especially since this doesn't happen often.
I know whats wrong and have already ordered the part(s), just curious to see what you guess. Symptoms/Diagnostics Driving home last night, catch the vague smell of gasoline, had just filled up the tank, and I really fill it up, so don't think too much about it. Get home, park car in garage. Come out an hour later for cigarette, garage reeks of gasoline. Check fuel pump (left cover off for a few days to verify no leaks, just changed check valve last weekend) Dry as a bone. Open hood, Strong odor of gasoline, hear a slight hissing, bubbling noise. Other symptoms: car now idles a bit rougher, but still within spec, when car sits at idle running, there is a STRONG odor of gasoline. Power is about 300 RPM's "off" of where it should be. Sometimes it takes a few cranks to get it going, fuel pressure is within spec when running. very small wet spot of fuel left behind when the car sits for a while. Hints Fuel pump is working flawlessly, check valve is new. Tank filter is clean Fuel filter is new (5 days old) gas is of good quality No prize or anything, just kind of curious as to what answers I get. AFJuvat
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my guess is fuel pressure regulator
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check for small leak above trans in fuel line. and I smoke too.
Dont when you smell gas fumes.. Its bad. boom. Fuel rail OK? no drips?- the hissing sounds like a fuel pressure issue somewhere.
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Both are incorrect. Fuel rail is not leaking.
Hint #2 repairs are limited to the engine bay. AFJuvat
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sounds like fuel damper except for fuel leak. my guess would be a bad fuel vapor valve
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Humm... I thought it was #2 where my gas leak very bad but my guess is #20 or #19.
 
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Spark plugs aren't burning all of the fuel...leaks out the exhaust?
I'm the last person you want diagnosing a car. 
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but I like this answer...
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You filled up, unlike normal. Some fuel went into fuel overflow tube, which is also spliced (right word?) into sunroof drain. Smell of gas comes from stopped up tube, which is not allowing the fuel to drain.
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fuel dampner leaking into vacuum lines
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oops, I missed the hissing bubbling sound... I change my guess to a broken/cracked fuel rail.
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02-14-2003, 05:54 PM
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AFJuvat said the Fuel rail is not leaking.
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02-14-2003, 06:06 PM
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Hey bud you also missed: "Both are incorrect. Fuel rail is not leaking. Hint #2 repairs are limited to the engine bay" come on already we're anxious to hear what it was!
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I know, I read that right after I posted the second one... And then I decided instead of guessing again, I would just shut up, lol. I've already proven myself an idiot LOL... jeez, if I just read the whole thing the first time... hehe
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It's a good guess since there really isn't too many things to leak fuel in the engine bay. First the hoses, then the fuel rail, the o-rings between the rail and injectors, the front fuel rail cap and ball, dampner, regulator, and the hoses/hard lines in between(depending on year and model). The only thing that kinda stumps me is the actual "very small wet spot of fuel", has too trickle down the cyl. head and down the front/rear of the motor, unless it's by the fuel lines and dropping by the exhaust-- ooh scary@! but if that was the case I don't think he'd be testing the idle and such if it was dripping on the exhaust.
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I just repaired a leaking fuel injector last month. I had all the symptoms you said except no hissing sound and and i guess my difference in performance was similar to what you describe. Fuel began to well up from the injector seal and saturate the intake side of the engine. Most of the gas would evaporate away before it could pool up enough to drip. The leak would eventually depressurize the fuel rail, causing the need to double crank over the engine to restart it. I think the housing of my injector is what failed, around the seal. If yours was to fail higher up on the injector, it might make an audible hiss or bubbling noise....... so I'm going with injector too.
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#2 injector - Seal failure, coupled with a stuck injector Fuel bubbling out of the injector hole. Honorable Mention, Bob's 944 for describing it exactly AFJuvat
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Holy crap! me mr know nothing was going to take a random guess and say that or the fuel rail but I said na I am just going to look dumb. I guess I should have said something!
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well, i'd like to take credit, but in this case it was just a total guess. the only other main fuel system component in engine bay that nobody had mentioned were the injectors.
when it comes to mechanics & diagnosis, i'm clueless, and i hope to prove it in the future.
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1988 Porsche 924s 2.5L
1988 Porsche 944 2.5L 4 Cyl, 8 Vales
1983 Porsche 944 2.5 
1986 superior water-cooled porsche 951 2.5
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