My Euro S almost ready to go in

[Danglerb]

I took a few picts of my Euro S motor almost ready to go into my black 85 Euro 5 spd.

[MPDano]

Looks good Mike! You're not going to paint the Cam Covers and Spider before dropping her in? ...and you told me you don't wrench

[MPDano]

Actually, I don't think it will start because of this

[Danglerb]

Precision Motorwerks did all the work, my VISA may never be the same again, but I have little doubt about it starting and running very well.

Original idea was going to be a quick and cheap swap and drop, dropping my running motor from my 84 Euro AT I am parting into the 85 Euro 5 spd with a TB fail motor that I bought. Well the heads stayed on, but I decided while its on a motor stand to pull the intake, clean everything and put in new seals, rubber, etc. along with a TB and WP. OTOH zero was done for anything but practical improvements, no cosmetic work, just stuff like Carls new oil thing, silicone oil pan gasket, motor mounts.

I am also thinking the less polish the more likely it sails through smog testing. Maybe the next motor I can get some hands on, get a few things painted or polished, but this is a closed hood driver, not a show car. Plenty of work for me to do on this one with the interior too.

[MPDano]

Whats Carls new oil thing?

[Danglerb]

This one from Carl at 928 motorsports.

[MPDano]

Originally Posted by Danglerb

This one from Carl at 928 motorsports.

Hmm, where does that go and what does it do?

[Danglerb]

http://www.928motorsports.com/parts/oilcontrolbaffle.php

[Danglerb]

Early cars didn't get the baffle is the way I understand it, not til 32v years.

[MPDano]

I think your right DanglerB. I don't remember seeing anything like rogue is showing there in my early 16v.

[Danglerb]

I went by today to try and clean up the bay a bit, but the motor was already installed and asking for more new hoses etc. Next week maybe it starts.

[MPDano]

Sheeesh, I wish my project could move as fast as yours.

[Danglerb]

Originally Posted by MPDano

Sheeesh, I wish my project could move as fast as yours.

Leo I bet you have a running car by Sharktoberfest, I've got CONFIDENCE in you.






*** note I don't say what year.

[Herr-Kuhn]

Looks good. That's a heck of an engine. I always wondered how well those would take to pressure...

[Danglerb]

10.4 CR isn't the first place I would go looking for a good motor to add boost to. Freaky boost might work though with a 87+ short block and Euro top end, something like 7.5 CR

[Danglerb]

A used good shape S4 motor isn't that much different in cost from a used good shape Euro S2, and the LH 2.3 brain of the S4 has decent knock detection.

OTOH a simple low boost blower like the Eaton with a custom box intake might do very well on a Euro S. Fatten up the low end, maybe do around 400 rwhp, hard to say.

I'm expecting this stock Euro S2 with a Y pipe and high flow cats to be in the 270 rwhp area. Once I have a feel for what that is like, then I will figure out where to go next.

[Normy]

Originally Posted by rhjames

CR of 10:1 and above are no big deal, you just use less boost........


blowing a 4.7L or smaller isn't any big deal either, just look at the ricer/tuner crowd.......


your Euro makes nearly the same HP as a 32V'er, so what's to prevent you from blowing it to the same power levels as John's high mileage twin turbo S4?

Nothing, except a fairly large chunk of money---

--Russ

Russ, the reality of 10.4:1 compression WITHOUT MODERN ELECTRONICS is that you cannot reliably run more than 5 psi of boost through this engine. And since 5 psi only gains you a small amount of extra power...supercharging is now an exercise in money spent for little gain. Though I've never tried it, I bet a good set of Hoosiers on the S2 without the supercharger would probably be just as fast as a 5 psi blown version of the same car with 200 treadwear tires. You can put these Indiana racing tires on the back end of a car for $300; a supercharger kit will be between $4000 and $8000.

All I know is that right now, I have 200 treadwear Falken RT-615's on my car, and I cannot floor it in first gear, even from a rolling start. I go about 100 feet, the engine get's into its' RPM range, and the back end goes sideways. Second gear does the same thing at a higher speed.

How the hell do the supercharger people keep from getting sideways on a regular basis?

N

[rich]

Now I need to have one of those baffle things.

[gattaca]

Originally Posted by rogue

What, spider not polished, cam towers not powder coated, exhaust not jet coated?

Subtract 50 hp.

Originally Posted by MPDano

Looks good Mike! You're not going to paint the Cam Covers and Spider before dropping her in? ...and you told me you don't wrench

Originally Posted by MPDano

Actually, I don't think it will start because of this

LOL...rogue, MPDano you guys are hilarious! +1 on the powder coating...just kidding Danglerb, engine's looking good!

[Danglerb]

I bought another spider that I plan to clean up at my leisure and maybe coat etc. to be ready when time permits a swap, or if I decide to build a "hot" 16v.