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whatudrivin 01-06-2012 02:39 PM

Just a quick update. I got in a few hours of work the other day and have taken off all the intake and am going to go ahead and pull the motor. I decided that it would be best to do this so that I can clean the car and motor the best and it will make changing all of the seals and the TB much much easier. I took a bunch of pictures throughout the process and will be posting them shortly.

I am hoping to have more done Sunday and maybe Saturday morning.

I still would really like someone around the Oklahoma City area to come by and check it out. But haven't found anyone around here yet.

MPDano 01-06-2012 02:41 PM

That will be the best way, but I've pulled my Euro Engine with help and I will "never" do it again. For me, it's a recurring nightmare for me ;)

whatudrivin 01-06-2012 02:58 PM

Hahahah. I am hoping that mine isn't recurring for me. Also I started another thread on here dano. Could you take a look at it and give me some input on some wiring questions I had?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-928-technical-forum/649159-looking-82-complete-wiring-harness-some-oklahoma-guys.html

-edit- also any tips on removing those metal clips from the wire connectors? I seem to be having problems and have broken a couple connectors.

MPDano 01-06-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by whatudrivin (Post 6477478)
-edit- also any tips on removing those metal clips from the wire connectors? I seem to be having problems and have broken a couple connectors.

The small wire clips on the Plastic Connectors (Fuel Injectors, etc)?

If so, you can just buy those connectors at Napa with tails and just crimp or solder the wires to the existing harness.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-928-technical-forum/596633-re-fuel-injectors.html

MPDano 01-06-2012 03:05 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1325891119.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1325891125.jpg

1982_928 01-06-2012 07:21 PM

When i got my car, the pump was dead. I got on ebay and purchased a walbro pump for my car for $25 dollars. When i got the item and went to leave feedback for it, the price was $250. I love typo's.... Saved me a ton. Haha.

whatudrivin 01-09-2012 06:26 AM

Dano, that is exactly what I am talking about. I have found a place online that has them but I think they were more than that. Will doing something like that negatively affect the price of the car in the long run? I have the option of buying a harness from an 84 for the fuel injectors.

MPDano 01-09-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by whatudrivin (Post 6482394)
Dano, that is exactly what I am talking about. I have found a place online that has them but I think they were more than that. Will doing something like that negatively affect the price of the car in the long run? I have the option of buying a harness from an 84 for the fuel injectors.

If you install it professionally so it looks like it was always there, than I see no reason it should the value of your car. The issue I have with a 30 year old harness is that it's a 30 year old harness. the connectors will also be 30 years old and brittle. Your call.

whatudrivin 01-11-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 6482506)
If you install it professionally so it looks like it was always there, than I see no reason it should the value of your car. The issue I have with a 30 year old harness is that it's a 30 year old harness. the connectors will also be 30 years old and brittle. Your call.

I am finding out first hand how brittle these connector are. Hence the 2 broken fuel injector connectors. I started looking for the harness before I found the clip replacements. And I have been thinking about that a lot lately. And I fear the same thing could happen to any new harness I buy. So we will see. Maybe I will get both and wire one up with new ones while I have the replacement harness on.

whatudrivin 01-13-2012 08:18 AM

I don't think I posted this so here it goes now. Here is something that I aquired just after getting my 928. Theres 1 or 2 in here that I cannot place what model they are. unfortunatelly this has been opened before =( But the cars all look to be in great shape.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...orschecars.jpg

whatudrivin 01-13-2012 08:36 AM

HA finally got it!


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1326472574.jpg

pcar928fan 01-13-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatudrivin (Post 6482394)
Dano, that is exactly what I am talking about. I have found a place online that has them but I think they were more than that. Will doing something like that negatively affect the price of the car in the long run? I have the option of buying a harness from an 84 for the fuel injectors.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this car is $10,000 away from being a $5,000 car. It needs FULL PAINT (many thousands) and full interior (equally many thousands) and that is still a no running car...but at least one that looks good. Then you have to get it running and running right! Keep in mind it probably got parked because something broke and it wasn't running right. Might be something small, might be something HUGE, but either way, this car is a very long way from being worth ANYTHING I am afraid. When you said you got a deal on it and I saw the pics, I was hoping the deal was that they paid you to haul it off.

All that said, I LOVE a good save, but a 928 save is going to cost a fortune and give you a car that is great fun to drive but is worth very little. Only the lowest mile examples are worth anything serious and by lowest, I am talking well under 10k miles.

I hope some day that they will take off in value, but I am not holding my breath for that to happen.

Keep up your good work on this car and it will be something you can be very proud of and drive for many, many years to come!

whatudrivin 01-14-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcar928fan (Post 6492511)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this car is $10,000 away from being a $5,000 car. It needs FULL PAINT (many thousands) and full interior (equally many thousands) and that is still a no running car...but at least one that looks good. Then you have to get it running and running right! Keep in mind it probably got parked because something broke and it wasn't running right. Might be something small, might be something HUGE, but either way, this car is a very long way from being worth ANYTHING I am afraid. When you said you got a deal on it and I saw the pics, I was hoping the deal was that they paid you to haul it off.

All that said, I LOVE a good save, but a 928 save is going to cost a fortune and give you a car that is great fun to drive but is worth very little. Only the lowest mile examples are worth anything serious and by lowest, I am talking well under 10k miles.

I hope some day that they will take off in value, but I am not holding my breath for that to happen.

Keep up your good work on this car and it will be something you can be very proud of and drive for many, many years to come!

I know why the car was parked. The PO used to restore cars to give to his wife, and had bought this and another car at the same time. He restored the other one but never got to this one before he passed away. It started and ran as of 2 years ago or so. The family just didn't know what to do with it and they parked it. It shouldn't be too far gone.

I know I'm a ways off but I am hoping to be able to learn how to do some of the paint on my own and such if it is possible. I don't know yet. But the car I can be proud of and drive for many years is what I am hoping to achieve. Body and interior are the last of my worries.

whatudrivin 02-01-2012 12:11 PM

Well here's a bit of an update. I also have some pictures of my intake removal and will post them once I can find the power cable for my camera. I just did my taxes and am looking at getting back more than I planned on. I should have enough to get a complete engine gasket/seal kit from Roger.

If you are reading this roger I''ll be looking at ordering within 2 weeks or so hopefully.

This will give me something to do for a while and also provide me with a lot of learning opportunities. I will begin pulling the motor as soon as I can find the time when there is enough light. I do have a large spotlight that might allow me to work at night if it isn't too cold.

Would this be a good engine stand to use with this engine? I have read that they can be pretty heavy, esp with the heads still on. I think it would provide enough support for a fully assembled engine. Folding Engine Stand - 2000 Lb. Capacity

I think this resealing of the engine will give me something to keep me occupied for a little while. Along with cleaning the engine and engine bay. Then with that done it shouldn't take too much to get her back up and running.

MPDano 02-01-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whatudrivin (Post 6530879)
Well here's a bit of an update. I also have some pictures of my intake removal and will post them once I can find the power cable for my camera. I just did my taxes and am looking at getting back more than I planned on. I should have enough to get a complete engine gasket/seal kit from Roger.

If you are reading this roger I''ll be looking at ordering within 2 weeks or so hopefully.

This will give me something to do for a while and also provide me with a lot of learning opportunities. I will begin pulling the motor as soon as I can find the time when there is enough light. I do have a large spotlight that might allow me to work at night if it isn't too cold.

Would this be a good engine stand to use with this engine? I have read that they can be pretty heavy, esp with the heads still on. I think it would provide enough support for a fully assembled engine. Folding Engine Stand - 2000 Lb. Capacity

I think this resealing of the engine will give me something to keep me occupied for a little while. Along with cleaning the engine and engine bay. Then with that done it shouldn't take too much to get her back up and running.

That stand looks plenty sturdy to me.

whatudrivin 02-01-2012 12:50 PM

Good to know. I think that may be the one I look at getting. Or one very similar. I want to find it locally so that I don't have to worry about shipping charges. I'm curious to know the full weight of the engine.... Google here I come....

whatudrivin 02-07-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 92marriw8 (Post 6541317)
What are the odds that the old gas has turned to goo in the injectors and clogged or froze them?



http://www.herfree.com/avatar.php

Probably very good.... I am going to send off the injectors to have them refreshed and make sure they are all still good.

whatudrivin 02-07-2012 12:40 PM

Picture of the intake off and all the cleaning that needs to be done. Going to clean her up a bit then put her back together. Getting a new fuel pump, will flush the lines and see if she will fire.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1328647241.jpg

MPDano 02-07-2012 12:50 PM

Also, make sure you notify the Fire Dept that your car is about to catch fire as well. ;)

Replace those fuel hoses on the Passenger side and the small ones feeding the fuel rails, PLUS all the short one's going to all your injectors. Remove the tank and clean it. then and only then you can disregard notifying the Fire Dept of the Car fire your about to create.

whatudrivin 02-07-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 6543109)
Also, make sure you notify the Fire Dept that your car is about to catch fire as well. ;)

Replace those fuel hoses on the Passenger side and the small ones feeding the fuel rails, PLUS all the short one's going to all your injectors. Remove the tank and clean it. then and only then you can disregard notifying the Fire Dept of the Car fire your about to create.

Hahaha. Yea I know.... I'm very paranoid about that. Luckily the fire dept is only 1/2 mile from my house.

I was looking at the motor today on my lunch break and did not see any rubber lines going to my fuel rails. Only the 2 on the passenger side by the heads and the ones to the injectors. Any pictures I can use to reference so I know where to look.


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