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997 Shifter Cable Snapped
Hello ,
Wondering if anyone else has had a shifter cable failure. Mine failed today at the transmission end leaving me stuck in 1st gear. It is a 2006 with 27,000 miles. There are two cables, it was the one that allows front to back movement. It snapped about 6 inches away from the transmission. Anyone else have this problem? |
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yep, just happened to me around T4 at summit point. and yep, front to back. i'm assuming we have to change out the whole cable module right? (997-424-041-01???)
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Yes. It is a kit with both cables since likely both are getting stressed similarly.$ 250 in parts.
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did you do it yourself? i have the handbrake/console off and old cables disconnected. since i dont have the parts yet, i havent pushed the rubber grommet out (it does push to outside, correct?) or disconnected cables from trans...altho not sure how to do that either...any idea?
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With the car under extended warranty the local shop is fixing it but I would imagine you have to feed the cables in from the transmission end. Hoping to get the car back Mon or Tues and will ask the tech for advice if I see him.
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cool, thanks. i am trying to fix it myself to save labor $, ANOTHER flat bed (to dealer), and so i know how to do it when it happens again!
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joe, not sure how you fared with the repair, but i did mine myself and worked out fine. not too bad of a DIY at all.
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Spiffy. Sorry for the late reply. Tech said to pull the cable out and feed it from the transmission side which you know by now. Glad it worked out for you.
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Same thing happened to me in November. Stuck in 1st gear shifting to neutral with clutch in rolling to a stop at red light 3 mile from home. No torque on the drive train.
After a AAA ride to the dealership (free) and $531 service and parts bill, all is back to normal. Have always had to be rolling to get an easy engage on 1st since new.
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same
I just had the same issue. Normal driving coming to a right turn and downshifting 3rd to 2nd and the shifter just went limp (front to back). It would then not move left or right. STUCK IN 3RD GEAR. I took the console apart thinking the issue would appear at the bottom based on internet research, Nope, all good. Jacked up the whole back of the car, played around and it looked like the long throw side wasn't doing it's job. Popped the linkage off that control and sure enough it slid right out into my hand, the cable snapped off right where it connects to the linkage rod. No way to fix that. Needs whole new cable assembly as they sell it from Porsche. Dealer quote is $185. Not bad though because I worked for Honda parts (+ others) and that's not but a few bucks more than theirs. WHAT P'S ME OFF IS THERE'S ONLY 15,400 MILES ON THIS CAR...... WHAT THE...and it's a 4+ hour job if you have a lift and I don't yet. I know my name suggests otherwise, but I BABY this car. I have my track cars, etc. Why would a garage kept car w/ 15k pop a shift cable like this.... my extended warranty sucks because I found out I shouldn't have touched a thing. So why have it right? I thought it may be something stupid like a popped off linkage bushing. Nope. I've got to get it towed and be at the mercy of the dealer for a week or more. Sh-tcan the warranty and get the balance money back??? I was worried about electrical issues, but it turns out the simple things I can fix are the issues, so why bother!!!!!
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Broken Shifter Cable
Original post on planet-9: Broken shifter cable -
I'm now a "broken shifter cable" victim like so many others that have posted on planet-9. I've broken this post up into five sections: car, the event, the repair, my thoughts, additional resources. car 2006 Cayman S with 34,150 miles on it. I don't race it (on or off the track). 90% of my commute is highway driving at 70 mph, with the occasional acceleration (no downshifting) to 80-90 mph. I bought the car as Certified Pre-owned with 5,000 miles on it. I put ~29,000 miles on the car over an ~8 month period of time the event I was driving into work. About 1000 yards from my house, I was casually (read: not aggressive, not racing, etc) shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear, when the shifter suddenly went limp. I could put the shifter into the slots for 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th gear, but the gears weren't actually shifting. The car was stuck in 2nd! Luckily the car was stuck in a low gear, and I was able to get the car back home. The symptoms: car is stuck in a gear; gear shift is limp - moves freely, not able to engage The repair I had the car towed to the Porsche dealership. They informed me that the gear shift cable had snapped. I've attached 3 photos showing the broken part. Some initial comments: No, i'm not on someone's hit list, and nobody intentionally cut the cable ; I've found other posts with similar photos (links below). I had to pay ~$1000 to get the shifter cable replaced. It took about a day to get the car back. My thoughts This is absolutely ridiculous. A Porsche...a Porsche is supposedly one of the most durable cars in the market. Prestigious brand, insanely expensive, built for high performance. I wasn't (nor have I) even stressed the car in any real way, yet somehow the gear shifter cable snapped. There are numerous situations where the outcome could be serious personal injury or death (eg. pulling into traffic, accelerating to pass a car, etc). This seemed very fishy to me, so I did some research on the car. It turns out that the previous owner had some warranty work, where the transmission had to be reinstalled. I bought the car Certified Pre-owned, with a clean carfax. This repair order didn't show up on the report, and since it was certified, I assumed Porsche of Flemington (where I purchased the car) did their job. I spoke to several Porsche service repair shops, during my investigation: - Danbury Porsche, where the shifter cable was repaired, initially thought the cable didn't "look right". After completing the repair, Danbury Porsche couldn't confirm or deny that the cable was installed incorrectly. Danbury Porsche assured me that the Cayman was a very reliable car, and they rarely saw Cayman's come in for major repairs. - ******** of Lancaster (I spoke to "Justin"), where the initial transmission work was done, told me that "I see the shifter cable fail quite often on Cayman's and 911's." - Porsche of Flemington, where I purchased the car, told me it wasn't "their problem, go talk to ********". - I called 1-800-PORSCHE, explained the story I've laid out here, and they said, "The car's out of warranty, there's nothing we can do about it". I then asked, "is this a known / systemic issue? Can you tell me what the failure rate is on the part?". Their response, "Porsche doesn't divulge such statistics". I replied,"they will with a subpoena". I'm absolutely livid. It's not about the repair money, but rather the principle of the situation. If the part wasn't installed correctly by ********, I would actually be less angry as long as they manned up and fixed it, because mistakes happen. Per the message boards however, this looks to be a more pervasive issue. Perhaps not enough to meet Porsche's recall criteria, but I would argue that their recall criteria is flawed! If this happens to even 1% of their cars, make the simple (relatively cheap) fix, and protect the lives of their customers. I'm especially livid with customer support. This part failing at 34,150 miles is ridiculous, regardless of whether it was mis-installed, or there's a fundamental issue with the part. These are expensive cars, designed for high-performance, and critical components like the shifter cable should be rock solid. The moment the customer service agent saw I was out of warranty (and in my case, < 6 weeks out of warranty!!), she could care less about the situation. I expected more from Porsche, in addition to expecting a first-class machine, I expected premium support. My faith in the brand is shaken. I was looking to buy a Cayenne for my wife, in fact we were planning to make a purchase in the next couple of weeks. Porsche's inability to man up, take responsibility, and do the right thing means they've lost me as a customer. Porsche's loss of my business means nothing to their bottom line, and they'll certainly go on to make tons of profit. My intent for sharing this with the community: 1. make people aware of the problem 2. further validate that this is a systemic issue 3. highlight Porshe's crappy customer service 4. ensure that current and potential Porsche customers are well-informed about what they are getting themselves into. Additional resources related discussions: Another Broken Shifter Cable - Minor Problem Broken shifter cable - Broken Shifter Cable Almost Cost My Life - Photos from other posts http://www.jovy-rework.com/images/jovy_uploads/_porsche_link_cable.jpg Selected quotes from other similar posts on this problem Yeah maybe on a cheaper car, but on a Porsche?? these cars are bloody expensive, we pay for the durability.. this is simply unacceptable, I hope Porsche lose a lot of customers, they can't even make a car as reliable as a Nissan these days and charge twice the price ----- The Cayman S is a nice car, but if it is prone to break its shifter cable in 8500 miles then there is something seriously wrong with modern design. ----- It’s a disgrace that Porsche, a so-called premium brand, can skimp on something as critical as a gear shifter and it’s assembly. Also, to those who say that taking legal action is not the way to go – again why? The OP has obviously been deeply traumatised by his experience and has every right to voice his concerns! ----- Thank you for the advice. But with due respect, the law firm that is taking on my case, with specialists on such issues, sees it differently to you. They think that this is a serious case of a car being unsafe and that the manufacturer can be held liable. I will file a claim and have provided all the relevant evidence which they will prepare the case. I am not asking for the forum members to make a judgement, but simply letting them know that they may be sitting on a time bomb if their linkage is similar to mine. As a performance car, most people who buy these cars will likely use its performance, and I can think of a thousand scenarious where the loss of drive could potentially end up in tears. If Toyota can call back all their cars due to erratic gas pedal response, I fail to see why Porsche can get away with a problem far worse than Toyota's. I have lost all my confidence in this car and every time I change up or down, I am wondering if the damn thing will break again. If it can break at 8600 miles, it can break at any time. It is not as if it will give advance warning before it breaks. Having no drive on a fast bend is massively dangerous. Loosing engine braking is not desirable at any time. Why should I drive a car that is potentially a death trap? I paid good money for this car and I expect to get value for money and irrespective of how much fun it may be to drive, it is basically an unsafe car. Does anyone have data to show how many accidents may have been caused by this failure that the driver did not survive to tell the story? My story would be untold if I had collided with the oncoming car at a combined speed of over 150mph. What is the justification for Porsche to insist on using this unreliable linkage? Profit is the only thing that comes to my mind. ------ I dare Porsche UK and Porsche USA both to disclose the number of cars they have had to replace the shifter cable. The 14 cases are only on this forum. There are many forums. Not everyone who may own a Porsche and experienced this problem are members of any forum. The question is which other makes suffer shifter problems? None in my whole life experience of cars. I've had a 911SC in the past. Apart from a broken hafl-shaft no other problems to speak of. Why should it be acceptable in 2012 for Porsche to offer ashifter cable that is "NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE". Is is simply not good enough and at the very least the car should come with a "HEALTH WARNING". If I had known that the Cayman S was prone to breaking the shifter cable for no apparent reason, I would not have bought it in the first place. I feel cheated.
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Wow! CaymanS_SSA,
You got really worked up over this. Do a search for IMS failures. You will enjoy reading about that part on your engine. Porsche redesigned it out of the 2009 on engines. Here is a primer. IMS Bearing Failure & Advice - Rennlist Discussion Forums
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