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elephant racing quick camber plate adapter for non-BilStein shocks

I have had these nice elephant racing quick change camber plates on my '73 911 for years with Bilstein shocks. I just got some MCS struts and put one in and when I lowered the car the strut stuck up right through the mount. Then I looked online and found they make some sort of adapter so the strut rod does not go through the mono ball.

I’d like to do some aligning and testing of the car tomorrow, does anyone know if the adapter just basically a washer or if I can just use a washer temporarily until I get the actual part?

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I'm not familiar with the adapters you're referring to, but if I've understood the challenge, I'd think the adapter is going to be some sort of spacer with a step on the OD to prevent poking through the monoball. A washer might keep it from poking through, but the top of the shock insert might be left to knock around in the monoball? Depending on how much movement there is, it could result in measurable camber change, not ideal for doing alignment.
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Thanks for the reply, the shaft is sized correctly for the monoball. I put a washer in for now for aligning etc and ordered the adapters from Elephant Racing today.

The Bilstein has a rounded top, the washer I put in could bind at extreme settings since it is not rounded. I will try to post a picture of these as google doesn't know anything about them.

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Mike,

I am using Ground Control CCP4 camber plates in my car with MCS 911 struts but the theory should be the same with your camber plates.

There are two problems to solve here. One, is how to hold the strut in place and the other is where the spring load is handled.

With my original Bilstein RSR coiler setup, the heim joint in the camber plate handled both loads. The top spring perch was located by spacers on the shaft that went though the heim joint. I will get into this later.

My camber plates have heim joints that have openings that are bigger than the threaded section of the Bilstein and MCS struts shaft. Here is a photo of both (Bilstein first):





The Bilstein shaft was stepped so it would only go through the heim joint so far. With the MCS struts, I needed bushings on the shaft at the top and bottom of the heim joint to locate the shaft. Here is a photo of what these look like:



I might need some additional spacers to get the shaft located properly and fixed so that it cannot move up or down once the nuts are installed on the threads.

I don't know how you locate and restrain the top spring perch with the Elephant camber plates. With the Bilstein setup, there was a big washer that kept the perch from moving too high. The Ground Control plates I use floating perch with a radius that rests against a matching radius on the bottom of the plate. I like this because it keeps the spring loads off the heim joint.

I hope this helps.
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Thanks Scott, I just got the adaptors (Thanks Elephant racing!) and they look similar to the ones you have.

I can't use coil-overs in my classes so no worry about the top spring perch.


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