Nice things to say about the Cayenne?

[eion]

Just noticed that not one of the threads in the new forum has anything really positive to say about the Cayenne. I'm pretty sure that no-one (or hardly anyone) on here has driven one (or even seen one for real, I know I haven't). I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but why all the negativity (or lack of positivity)? There must be some good things to say about it. For my part, I think that the front end looks quite nice, the interior looks comfortable and executive (if *very* non-Porsche), and an SUV that handles well would be really nice.

Just my $.02 worth.

[autobonrun]

How about. "If someone gave me one I would take it."

Seriously, I think it's priced too expensive for the SUV market. If money were no object and I was in the market for an upscale SUV, I'd own one. Only after the first year however since I tend to stay away from initial entries regardless of the manufacturer.

If I had 80 grand just burning a hole in my pocket , I'd get the new BMW 745Li when the second year got released.

As I've said before the concept of the Cayenne doesn't bother me. The concept of Porsche still not racing irks me to no end. I want to see Factory Porsche again. Is that too much to ask. i guess so.

[overkill]

I agree,... if somone gave it to me I would take it,... then sell it a and pick up a couple of REAL Porsches! Can I safely say that the Cayenne is not a REAL Porsche? I mean it's not like I'll be flashing one down on the road anytime soon.

[nostatic]

I have to admit that the latest round of pictures don't offend me as much as earlier ones. Either I'm getting soft in my old age, or the design is growing on me. I will withhold judgment until I see it in person.

Then again, I'm getting used to 996s, and actually think the C4S and turbo look pretty good, so my taste may be suspect

[Moneyguy1]

It may not be nice, but here goes:

1. There are already vehicles out there that can do what the Cayenne proports to do at a much lower price

2. If I want a truck, I prefer to purchase it from some company that at least has experience building trucks and understands what a truck can and cannot do.

3. Porsche has never built a vehicle that can be driven ad infinitum without serious service/maintenance needs. That has been and still is the nature of the "beast"; all Porsche models require TLC to keep then at the peak of their performance capabilities, not just "change the oil and gas 'er up, Fred"..

Spleen now vented.

[Jack Olsen]

Can the brakes be adapted to fit an earlier car?

[West]

I can't wait till 5 years down the road. Heck, I'll be able to buy one for probably a couple thou more than a used GTI, drop a V8 in and re-name it a "Cheyenne".

[David McLaughlin]

To say that the Cayenne is not a real Porsche is BS! Any car that came with Porsche's name or badge on the car IS a real Porsche. While a SUV may be a severe departure from Porsche's market, it still should be an excellent example of that type of vehicle. Hell, if Porsche can make some of the best sports cars, why can't they make a proper example of another vehicle. No one seems to harrass the tractor owners, why is the Cayenne much different?

I'll make my final decision when I see the vehicle in person as to if I like it or not. Right now, I think it looks ok and has some very cool features. For comparison, I thought that the 964 models were not overly pretty, but after seeing a few, I am now searching for a C4.

Everyone has there own tastes, why knock them. I don't care much for 944s, but many do. I find 968s looking like a cross bread, but many like them. I like the 996 models too while a lot of people hate the design. Who cares! They are all Porsches and they fill the dreams of many people. Lets give the bashing of ALL porsche models a rest and just enjoy the style we like for ourselves.


Enjoy driving the Porsche that makes you happy.

[Rot 911]

I just saw a new Golf today and thought it was the Cayenne!

[very~worn~944]

I think David is right. Does Porsche design and produce them? Then how can you call them "not real porsches". Now you just seem dumb. You can "not like them", and not agree with porsche's decision to produce them, but other people are still allowed to like them. Also I agree with wannaberacer. I am a 944 owner, and agree with him. I am astonished to see 944 owners calling this not a real porsche. We get sooo much abuse for being different, but now us 944 owners are baggin on the SUV? Crazy! If I saw one on the road...and the driver was nice, I would sit and chat with them all day long about their SUV. I personally am against all SUV's bought just for the purpose of being the bigger car in an accident. With all these new soccermom vehicles around...It is just unsafe for us to be driving our little porsches around. we'll get ran over. SUV's are quite fun, if you use them like you are supposed to and off-road. Otherwise it is as good as a minivan. As you can tell I hate SUVs. I will still call this a Porsche, and let it into my family. If it has the symbol it IS a porsche, or a lawsuit waiting to happen. Stop excluding it and accept it with the idea that you won't buy one. Have your opinions, but don't push them on other people. Also they ARE friggin powerful, and if it IS used to off-road...I think it will tear it up(the road that is). Please don't start neglecting these owners before they even exist. I agree with moneyguy's 3 points, but they are just reasons why I won't buy one. If anyone else likes them...good for you and we can have a porsche barbeque some day! Another point is...IF SUV's are the new fashion now adays, and where I live I see more merc. and BMW SUV's than hondas, than why shouldn't Porsche get in on the deal. If you think about it...It is just more money to porsche, which means more money for better engineering and faster GT2's. The money IS going to a good cause. If I may refer back to the 70's/80's...The 924/944 is the sole thing that kept Porsche alive. Their sales were low and were going downhill untill they invented our affordable porsche. Everyone bought them and brought porsche back on their feet. Without us, there might not have been the 996's and GT2's. Please see this in Porsches shoes. More money=better cars. If the rich lady nextdoor wants her husband to buy her one...good...cause that money will make my future porsche just that much better. Ok...I am done...Have your opinions...share your opinions...but don't push your opinions..and don't just plan be ignorant and exclude this invention from our family.

[Moneyguy1]

I agree that, since it has a Porsche badge on it, it is a Porsche, but a GMC is not a Corvette. There will never be a GMC high performance roadster, nor will there be a Corvette four door SUV.

I think, had Porsche done like the Japanese and come out with a different logo like Acura or Lexus to differentiate them from their smaller and less expensive kin, there would be less rancor. I have seen the Cayenne in person, walked around it and looked (but not sat) inside. It is nice, but it does not strike me as being a vehicle with the same characteristics that have made the Porsche name synonymous with handling and high speed manueverability.(one cannot totally ignore the laws of physics; i.e. mass and C of G) Perhaps if I drive one, I will think differently. However, that will probably never happen.

I also agree there are individuals who require a larger vehicle due to occupation, size of family. However, even these behemoths are generally found with one or at the most two occupants. When we go on vacation and need that larger vehicle, rather than pay monthly for something of limited use, we rent something suitable from National and go on our merry way, knowing that should it break down, 'ain't my problem....

All that being said, my original observations are valid. There are other vehicles on the road capable of doing the jobs this vehicle was designed to do and if I want such a vehicle, I would prefer to purchase it from a manufacturer with a proven record of building trucks.

Cheers to all!!!

[autobonrun]

The concept of rebadging the Porsche Cayenne is an interesting one. From a management perspective it would not be a good idea. From the perspective of not upsetting die-hard sports car enthusiasts, it would probably have worked. However, Porsche made the correct business desision in not rebadging it. They have spent years building the name Porsche to be associated with high end performance vehicles that people are willing to pay a premium for. Neither BMW nor Mercedes rebadged their SUV for the very same reason.

The Japanese however had a different problem. Neither Toyota, Honda, or Nissan had a name association that allowed them to compete with BMW or Mercedes in the $50k and up market. Hence, creating Lexus, Acura, and Infinity was required from a marketing perspective. Of the three, Lexus/Toyota by far has done the better job at differentiation and the price premium they are now able to demand.

I think those in the market for an upscale SUV will now consider Porsche along with BMW and Mercedes. This was the purpose, not converting Porsche sports car owners to SUV owners. Two totally different markets with two totally different target segments. There's no reason Porsche can't and shoudn't compete in both.

Now if they just don't forget the racing and further development of their sports car line, I will be satisfied.

[jph83]

To be honest the concept of the cayenne doesn't really impress me but the fact that it's a porsche does interest me.
They've been innovators in the automotive world since they started and i'd like to see what they can do with an SUV.
Plus i can't wait to see what the big tuning companies like RUF, Techart, Gemballa etc come up with!

[ScottKelly911]

I have to admit even though there are a few things that I don't particularly care for on the Cayanne, (personally, I was hoping for something less conservative looking) I am interested to see it in person and how it performs in real life. One of the things that I really hope Porsche does is race it in the Paris-Dakaar rally!!!! Let's not forget that Porsche has been making four wheel drive vehicles for years!! And, the Cayanne is not Porsche's first off-roading vehicle, maybe you recall a small run family member called the 959 which took the 1986 P-D Rally. I think if Porsche ran and won the P-D Rally, it would not only give the Cayanne instant credibility as a formidable offroader, but give it the Racing lineage that we conjure up when thinking of our favorite Marque Porsche.

[ScottKelly911]

I have to admit even though there are a few things that I don't particularly care for on the Cayanne, (personally, I was hoping for something less conservative looking) I am interested to see it in person and how it performs in real life. One of the things that I really hope Porsche does is race it in the Paris-Dakaar rally!!!! Let's not forget that Porsche has been making four wheel drive vehicles for years!! And, the Cayanne is not Porsche's first off-roading vehicle, maybe you recall a small run family member called the 959 which took the 1986 P-D Rally. I think if Porsche ran and won the P-D Rally, it would not only give the Cayanne instant credibility as a formidable offroader, but give it the Racing lineage that we conjure up when thinking of our favorite Marque Porsche.

[piperpilotduane]

It looks just like the Cayenne to me. Vw must have built it for them and then will be able to release it with VW badges later. Sound familiar?

[prattrc]

Originally posted by piperpilotduane
It looks just like the Cayenne to me. Vw must have built it for them and then will be able to release it with VW badges later. Sound familiar?

The Cayenne and the Touareg are similar. VW and Porsche shared development costs, but each will have unique engines. And it does sound familiar, VW backed out of the same deal with the 924 and half backed out of the same deal with the 914, but this time, I think the deal was more solid, probably because Piech was head of VW throughout development and pre-production (by this time in the same process for 914 and 924, VW had already given up). Being a large share holder in both companies, I can't see him sacrificing one for the other.

They will be built separately, though.

[atlporsche]

as discussed with my "bench race at the bar" group last night....

The Cayenne will be a SERIOUS class contender for onelap, pikes peak, and P-D rally.

making a list where it could be VERY useful.

sjd

[West]

Man, I wanna party with you guys, woo-whoo!

[pwd72s]

The first Porsche was unique. The Cayenne? Just another overpriced SUV designed to haul golf clubs to the course in "style"...Oh, guess I forgot about hauling kids to soccer games. Porsche, as a company, has sold it's soul. Enuf so that I've given serious thought to selling my car. The Cayenne? It's kind of like discovering that the cheerleader you had a crush on was busted for prostitution at your 10th year HS reunion...