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73.5 T CIS Coupe value as it sits
I am going to be selling a super original and numbers matching 2 owner T. Thinking it might make the most sense for me to list f/s as it sits vs. doing misc mechanics and detailing... what $$$$ spread you all think there might be?
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50-55k if it runs? bummer someone installed those $4.95 mirrors from their local wal mart. I'd spend half a day and replace those with correct flags before putting it up for sale.
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As much as barn finds bring big money these days, it certainly would benefit this car to give it a full detailing, document all the original aspects and make it run.....
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Thanks for the input... much appreciated. It’s been sitting for less than 5 years, inside and covered. There was an extensive rework and upgrade to the A/C system around that time too with new front to rear lines, evaporator, fittings, rotory compressor and conversion to 134A... I haven’t tried, but fully expect the motor to start up and run.
There are other Porsche I need to focus on so just not sure I’ll have the time to devote to this gem... at least not the time it deserves. Guess I need to get a better feel of what value is if taken to the full preservation class candidate level this could become. The paint and interior show all the signs of being original and not restored. |
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Originality...
The more original the better, replace the mirrors with a good used ‘73 style and the same goes for the fog lights.
It’s hard to believe it was in a shop 5 years for an AC fix, any other mechanical details? How many miles are on it? As you know the ‘69-‘73’s are very sought after, and for the “T” the ‘72 and ‘73’s are the best of the bunch. 72’s seem to bring slightly more due to the oil tank position, smaller bumpers, and MFI. Some people like MFI better, and they seem to bring a slight premium, but it’s probably more expensive to rebuild and set-up than CIS. My CIS (SC) has been extremely reliable, my SC (and my old carburated Scout) are the most reliable old cars I have - they always seem to start and run well with minimal care. The body looks nice, IMO the color is a slight minus. I’d say detail/service it, get it running and driving well, and ask $60k. The June 2018 Excellence magazine lists the “average” ‘72/‘73 T at $32k (IMO a bit low) and good at $64k. Scratch the my silly comment on the paint, I guess I was color blind and saw red. Tangerine is a plus, maybe not as much as the bright greens, but a nice (sought after) color. Last edited by G450X; 06-20-2018 at 05:59 PM.. Reason: Error |
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I would also say $50-60k. If you don't want to mess around looking for a used mirror, Porsche Classic is making them now. I bought one for around $175 IIRC.
I agree to make sure it's running. One can easily spend a few grand going through the CIS fuel system. A buyer will ding it that much or more if it's not driving. Make it drive and throw it on BaT and it might surprise you.
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Here's a comp. I want to say ask was 52? Car sold immediately - Likely multiple interested parties at full ask. I understand MFI vs CIS, one year oil door, etc. Might have been a little underpriced for a hassle-free sale.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/991491-fs-1972-911t-coupe-matching-numbers-tangerine-mfi.html I don't know all the details, but based on what I see you could very easily add 10k value to that car in a weekend or two. Get all the stuff ahead of time (mirrors, bumper trim, fluids, tires, RUBBER FUEL LINES) and spend some time replacing and detailing. Maybe get Fuchs - buyers love Fuchs (save the cookies if they're original to the car). Shoot photos of the wheelwells, underside, hard-to-reach stuff as you clean it up. List around 60 or shoot a million good photos and contact the folks at BAT. It sounds like you know what you've got - looks like it could be a preservation-class candidate from what I see as well. I'm sure you've had a few PMs to buy as-is in the 30s. That's an option, too. |
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Is that original paint? If so, add anywhere from $10-$20K, as you will attract lots of attention from the "cork sniffers." A '73.5 T with original paint is now an $80-$100k car...
As others have said, spending a few hundred on detailing/sorting can net you thousands. |
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If you attempt to start it, let me give you a caution based on hard experience. DRAIN ALL the old fuel out first! Then put 5+ gallons of new fuel in the tank to be sure that whatever was left in the FI system is completely diluted. Use ethanol-free gas if you can get it. Then open the fuel return line fitting in the engine bay and run the fuel pump until you get out about a cup. It will smell bad.
Since the law has required ethanol in the fuel, it does not last or age well. It will leave varnish deposits on the intake valve stems as the volatile part of the gas evaporates in the intake port. If you start the engine, run it until the engine warms up, then shut it down, the deposits will cause the valves to stick in the guides as the engine cools down. The next time you start the engine, there's a good chance the valves will hang open and the pistons will hit them. Expensive noises! Bad juju! Otherwise, I think your CIS system will work, because mine did. Then mix fuel injection cleaner into the tank and drive the car over several days to let it dissolve the crud in the injectors and anywhere else. |
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