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1979-930 03-19-2019 06:33 AM

Why isn't there a thread on the Magnus car?
 
There is now. :D
I know some of you are just as intrigued as I am about a YouTube celebrity adding crazy value to a car.
I am so happy it's a no reserve auction.
So what's your guess on final sale price?


https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/magnus-walker-str002/

ShopCat 03-19-2019 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10396285)
There is now. :D
I know some of you are just as intrigued as I am about a YouTube celebrity adding crazy value to a car.
I am so happy it's a no reserve auction.
So what's your guess on final sale price?


https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/magnus-walker-str002/

It's going to surprise people, but this will still hit $300k IMO. Seller might even make money.

Mocker 03-19-2019 07:39 AM

So very urbany. So extremely outlawy.

specialtyoneinc 03-19-2019 07:57 AM

Auction result at Pebble in 2013
https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1972-porsche-911-str-ii/

Also was for sale at this Aston dealer for awhile. Think they were asking $375k
https://www.astonmartin-lotus.com/porsche/1972/1972-porsche-911-str-002-by-magnus-walker

I think it's a mid $200k car max but it will probably sell closer to $300k since a bunch of people eat up the whole urban outlaw / rocker brand Magnus created...

https://youtu.be/uqHyfu8Rf-c?t=383

QueWhy 03-19-2019 08:03 AM

P-car market seems shady as hell so I’m going to say it’s bid up over $300k thanks to some shill bidding.

1979-930 03-19-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mocker (Post 10396366)
So very urbany. So extremely outlawy.

He said, so very Mockingly. :D

Matt Monson 03-19-2019 08:59 AM

I don't think the market for this car is as strong as it once was. I'm putting it down around $250k.

piscator 03-19-2019 09:47 AM

I'm sorry, but I don't see $300,000 worth of special in this car. Nothing superior to many of the builds here, performance--wise. Aesthetically, it's a hodgepodge and not especially attractive. Mocker's right, '"So very urbany. So extremely outlawy." -- I'd add so very Disney!

The comments are interesting. If anyone wants to part with or build a 3.2 liter motor for this guy, he'll give you $100,000 just for the engine:

"For me, the 3.2SS MFI powerplant is the centerpiece of the car and is droolworthy all on it's own....... and probably a six figure endeavor unto itself."

Robert

Matt Monson 03-19-2019 10:10 AM

That is laughable.

trader220 03-19-2019 10:52 AM

$100k for that motor? ROFL

trader220 03-19-2019 11:00 AM

Is it me or are ridiculous questions being fed to this guy and then answered equally as ridiculously?

"I guess a few things should be mentioned. This car part: This is a real longhood and not backdate. It’s not singer or Gunther like detaileded (at $700k - $2Million) but this car is very nicely built and to many an even more desirable take on the Outlaw. Magnus seems to be at the the beginning of his rise to fame and is very well respected and liked by an even larger crowd than the Porsche community. He has already achieving mainstream celebrity. He has Match Box cars, Movies, documentaries and seems to be building international momentum.
Yes, the car can easily be put away and shown to some big collectors friends or Porsche Museum. What a shame that would be. What would a car like this sell for without everything attached to it?
I was at rennsport 6 and saw many and spoke to a few hotrod outlaws owners and builders. $300k seem to be the middle ground for decently built cars. Some over $300k and a lot higher. I met a few owners of gbody backdated cars with a standard 3.2L (well built) that had big money into them. This car is worth what someone is willing to pay. Who’s buying? A driver, and art collector, a Porsche Collector, investor. This is a living cultural icons car. To some it’s a car to others it’s much more, not unlike many special collectible things of all kinds. . So, If I had to guess a number, I would say....sorry gotta get ready for work. Good Luck to all and Congrats to whoever wins this beauty."



How many hot rod builds have you seen sell for over $300 grand? No "art collector" is buying this car and its not as significant as the Janice Joplin 356. Give me a break. Beginning of his rise to fame? I would argue that he's already past his peak. $300k is middle ground? Where on Mars?

Rawknees'Turbo 03-19-2019 11:00 AM

I know that not everyone who owns these cars has technical knowledge or skills, but it's still amusing to me to read the posts about, "consulted my mechanic about JB Weld used on the engine case".

ShopCat 03-19-2019 11:43 AM

Saying he is "beginning his rise" and "gaining momentum" is hilarious. Well past peak fame, but I think bidders will have extreme confidence in the build quality of this car due to his name and its history/documentation. Confidence spurs bids and $$$, which is why I think its going to go for all the money plus some.

NYNick 03-19-2019 12:45 PM

You sell the sizzle and not the steak, as Kramer would say. Magnus has sizzle, big time. And I bet this car is a lot of fun to drive.

Look at the G body ST's being built out here and selling for $200K. Magnus has nothing to do with them, and while well done, they're not special, per se.

There are plenty of guys with plenty of money who want a car to brag about, that's built up already and that draws a crowd at Sunday C&C's. This one fits that bill.

$300K? Maybe, but not from me. I could get it done much cheaper, but my name isn't Magnus.

ab1752 03-19-2019 01:01 PM

The matchbox thing had me until I saw the rock chip so I'm out.

Edit: I changed my mind, I'm in again and my plan is to forward date it into a boxster. Take that, living cultural icon.

juanbenae 03-19-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ShopCat (Post 10396683)
Saying he is "beginning his rise" and "gaining momentum" is hilarious.

like the day he drove his car into the back of a car carrier at one of his horse and pony for pay shows? for me that's always been a high water moment...


I would not want to drive another guys car as my own because he/it was famous, unless it was jon Voight's la baron. seems to me a lot like showing up to a party with a brand new second hand girl...

juanbenae 03-19-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mocker (Post 10396366)
So very urbany. So extremely outlawy.


flojo or magnus?:D

Rawknees'Turbo 03-19-2019 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10396882)
flojo or magnus?:D

Ha ha - nice!

ShopCat 03-19-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10396873)
like the day he drove his car into the back of a car carrier at one of his horse and pony for pay shows?

And with a press member on board, almost taking out a Mercedes. I have always found his cars interesting and don't get a lot of the hate. But he drives like an a$$ on public roads.

techweenie 03-19-2019 02:50 PM

I had a funny conversation with a guy last year. He was telling me he had a "Magnus car," and sent me a pic. I sent him back a pic of the car before I sold it to Magnus, whose contribution was to lower it and put different wheels on it. He got very quiet.

JMS935 03-19-2019 03:29 PM

This car would never see 300k plus of my money, regardless of who built it. I suspect the seller won’t ever see break even on this purchase.

faapgar 03-19-2019 03:42 PM

Magnus build
 
I am shocked that this would bring any thing near $300K.The members on this forum have built way more quality builds than this.Dave K has two that have sold over $200K.Right now SEAFYE has an impeccable 70E in Orange that is cheap at his ask.I made a comment last year about a steering wheel with his name.The comments back were not nice.Jim Tweet has made some very nice ones as well.Magnus is a hodge podge with a ponytail and a clothing line.He has done well and more power to him.He has definitely brought more attention to our world and he has my thanks.VALUE ? ciao fred

JJ 911SC 03-19-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 10396958)
I had a funny conversation with a guy last year. He was telling me he had a "Magnus car," and sent me a pic. I sent him back a pic of the car before I sold it to Magnus, whose contribution was to lower it and put different wheels on it. He got very quiet.

Pretty funny...

sugarwood 03-19-2019 04:13 PM

Magnus PI jumped the shark in like 2015 when he crashed his car into a parked truck.

He did make this recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqAzugyCQEo

Matt Monson 03-19-2019 04:35 PM

The nicest cars in Magnus’ collection aren’t the ones he’s personalized

manbridge 74 03-19-2019 05:11 PM

Yep, most of his cars are low mile survivors with interesting options/colors/interiors etc.

Rawknees'Turbo 03-19-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ab1752 (Post 10396799)
The matchbox thing had me until I saw the rock chip so I'm out.

Edit: I changed my mind, I'm in again and my plan is to forward date it into a boxster. Take that, living cultural icon.

Will that forward date include both hairdresser and aerobics instructor costumes, or at least a sweater to drape over one's shoulders?!?!

specialtyoneinc 03-25-2019 07:30 AM

$237.5k - 4 days left.

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/magnus-walker-str002/

1979-930 03-25-2019 07:53 AM

With the two Flyn Hawn cars selling for around $230k and nothing but a PCA award for provenance.
I now see this car, with the Magnus build title, hot wheel and Lenno appearance, bringing $300k or more.

trader220 03-25-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10403792)
With the two Flyn Hawn cars selling for around $230k and nothing but a PCA award for provenance.
I now see this car, with the Magnus build title, hot wheel and Lenno appearance, bringing $300k or more.

The markets a little softer these days

1979-930 03-25-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by trader220 (Post 10403877)
The markets a little softer these days



True. Maybe a little less.


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JMS935 03-25-2019 06:16 PM

Maybe those stickers under the mirrors add 20k a place. LoL

piscator 03-25-2019 06:35 PM

I gave it a second look, trying to be charitable, but I just don't find this car attractive -- at all. If someone else finds it attractive, fine. But, to me, this is like the emperor's new clothes.

I'm not an artist, but I spent 30 year in the graphic arts industry and this car has no design coherence whatsoever. If incoherence was the goal, then, 'Okay man, it's cool, I got it." But to my taste, gold striped 'Porsche' on the sides matching the gold wheels, but then, red bumpers, and blue stripes on the hood, roof, and deck-lid? The car looks like it was constructed with hand-me-down parts. I'm sorry, but the aesthetics are simply a befuddled hodge-podge of design elements. .Like many other modern product designs -- this falls into the the category of the 'Disney-fi-cation' of design. For a Hot-Wheels toy, it's a great design. For adults? Don't make me laugh!.

If you like this car, great. But $300mm? The emperor is shopping at Walmart -- and it shows. Frankly, it scares me that some media bamboozled individual would pay anything close to that for this car. Not that I have a strong opinion or anything.

Robert

BLACK3.2 03-25-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by piscator (Post 10404606)
I gave it a second look, trying to be charitable, but I just don't find this car attractive -- at all. If someone else finds it attractive, fine. But, to me, this is like the emperor's new clothes.

I'm not an artist, but I spent 30 year in the graphic arts industry and this car has no design coherence whatsoever. If incoherence was the goal, then, 'Okay man, it's cool, I got it." But to my taste, gold striped 'Porsche' on the sides matching the gold wheels, but then, red bumpers, and blue stripes on the hood, roof, and deck-lid? The car looks like it was constructed with hand-me-down parts. I'm sorry, but the aesthetics are simply a befuddled hodge-podge of design elements. .Like many other modern product designs -- this falls into the the category of the 'Disney-fi-cation' of design. For a Hot-Wheels toy, it's a great design. For adults? Don't make me laugh!.

If you like this car, great. But $300mm? The emperor is shopping at Walmart -- and it shows. Frankly, it scares me that some media bamboozled individual would pay anything close to that for this car. Not that I have a strong opinion or anything.

Robert

Interested to know-- what's an example of a hot rod build that your think is really well done?

specialtyoneinc 03-25-2019 07:43 PM

Speaking of cool Hot Rods...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvFgu6tBLiN/

Flatfan

https://i.postimg.cc/zGXBw0DD/Screen...8-46-10-PM.png

1979-930 03-25-2019 09:27 PM

Piscator I agree and I’m not saying the car is worth $300k. I too find the multi-color Porsche fad ugly. It’s right there with black wheels.
I’m trying to put myself in the mindset of someone that pays $230k for a backdated RSR build.
That guy has money to burn, has no vision or talent and wants to be hip, but he really just wants you to know he has money to burn.
What better way than to drive into C&C with a Magnus built Porsche.
That guy is out there.


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Rawknees'Turbo 03-25-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc (Post 10404677)

If I had an extra $250-$300K to spend on a car (speaking of which, Deez and pNutz, get back on the corner, NOW!!!), it would have to have a well hung engine like that in it!

msort81 03-26-2019 04:21 AM

Does anyone actually know the seller of the ex Magnus Walker car ?

I'm betting the 'sale' is actually a case of advertising it on 'P Car market' in order to generate publicity and they are paying the owner. Otherwise why list in such a comparatively new sites when there are far better places for the exposure of a celebrity car.

piscator 03-26-2019 05:06 AM

Black, the term "hot-rod" is pretty broad, but the 'Beach Boys,' 'Hot-rod Lincoln,' stereotype,is a car that's been 'hopped up' by a young male, on a slender budget, using disparate parts, cleverly (but maybe not completely) assembled, to achieve some exciting level of performance. On that basis, the Magnus car is is brilliant (except for the slender budget part). Aesthetically, it looks like the Camaros my buddies and I adapted, with whatever parts we could find -- to look 'cool.'

But it ain't art! And it ain't worth $300m, except, maybe, to some guy who hasn't quite grown up.

The Ferrari 400 I posted is, to me, art. It's esthetically cohesive. It's gorgeous. So is the E-type Jaguar. The Porsche 911 in its classic iterations. These exquisite automobile designs suggest an esthetic unity or completeness. They don't need to be made into masterpieces, because they already are. Modify them if you want, but visually, you won't be improving them.

Robert

dwelle 03-26-2019 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by piscator (Post 10404872)
But it ain't art! And it ain't worth $300m, except, maybe, to some guy who hasn't quite grown up.

it sure as hell ain't worth $300m.

but it might get close to $300K...


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