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Matt Monson 07-13-2019 05:42 PM

Don’t forget trackrat from Kansas. He’s like Midwest Suga.

juanbenae 07-13-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10523135)
Don’t forget trackrat from Kansas.

there are like 3-4 TR versions, a rash or two as well...

I did not want to call them all out for participation sake. I even went so far as to leave pnutz off my "repetitive" ledger...

wgwollet 07-13-2019 05:55 PM

Sugarwood
Your mad because the 1986 was the last 915 trans, and your car missed the cutoff, plus about a $5000 loss on value over the 1987 G50 if all is equal.
I had one in a 1972 and 1985. But my 88 G50 is so much better....remember, it’s in the 964 too, but there .....the G50 had the shift pattern shortened. Oh big improvement over the Carrera G50.
Then the lovely G50 6 Speed in the 993 is the best. Porsche knew the 915 was outdated. Yes it can be shifted, but until I got my 964, I just thought who cares, I never liked how you sit with the long throw and longer stick.....plus some think when a short shifter is installed on a 915 it’s not good.
People then try to shift quickly but do not understand how a transmission of that vintage works, the syno do not spool up quick enough and the 915 gets excessive wear points, causing grinding.
Who cares you say?

matt930s 07-13-2019 06:25 PM

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NYNick 07-14-2019 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10523115)
you're likely closest to him in NY and im sure we could put together a go fund me page for fuel & such for your trip up to see him. id contribute handsomely to that cause.

until then lets play a little game with a worst topic starter list. besides shug a couple to mind currently from the 911 tech section.


* any 3rd person poster ever. wareaglescott is a worst case offender...

* Geronimo from Michigan only asks questions that have been asked & answered 20x before.



what you got?

I don't need money to go visit Shug. IIRC, I (nicely) offered to go over there and show him how to jump start his car. I'm pretty sure I even offered to let him drive my car to see how a proper 911 handles, versus his dump truck comments. Alas, he prefers to remain anonymous so he can troll with impunity. Yes, I believe we live close to each other, but I'm not sure.

I live in Westchester County, just north of NYC. I'm happy to meet with him or any of you guys for a coffee, a beer or in my garage if you're ever in the area. I like cars. I like to talk about them, drive them, look at them and meet other like minded people. It's been a lifetime hobby that has grown over time.

There are people who act out for attention. Some throw temper tantrums. Some throw out provocative statements. Most are desperately insecure.

Or, as I said, some people are just miserable.

911heaven 07-14-2019 06:18 AM

If the Sugar Meister wants to remain anonymous, I guess that is his right in a free country. I would encourage Sugar to go and do Starbucks with Nick. Bring the cars and meet up just for fun. Why not? You're in the neighborhood.

If not, we'll still have a Sugarwood that posts thread/topics that go against all odds. Without him, the forum-ites may miss having someone legitimate that they can pick on. How dreary of a scenario would that be? Sugar doesn't mind getting beat up so it seems. He might enjoy it i don't know. Anyway Sugar, go get a coffee with Nick in the neighborhood, and make him pay! Even if you have coffee, you can remain who you are, continue posting like you do.

Nick was once a long haired Hippie with a 912. You two might find lots to talk about
bernie

matt930s 07-14-2019 06:30 AM

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2223323

1979-930 07-14-2019 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10522327)





spoke with one of my buddies who still races in the series a couple weeks ago and now that they've moved to hooiser for the class the guys you reference are new set every weekend guys. at least with the RA-1 a couple sets if on a budget could last you a whole season with the many heat cycles they would endure. im being told the hoo-hoo's are pretty much a single weekend tire as much past 7-8 heat cycles they fall off drastically.



I look back on the years I spent building and racing my car with much fondness, but the money it took to even remain the least bit competitive was far beyond what I could justify in the end. all ive got now is hours of race videos and memories... I do miss the people I raced with, but many of the grassroot "privateers" that I shared paddock space with have left for much the same reason I did. and I never could bring myself to go racing a miata.;)


The tire changes suck and kill the sport. There has been a lot of talk about Karting at the club level being dead because of soft tires that last one race. There used to be 15-20 Karts 10 years ago. Now some races have 6 Karts. You have to run Pro Kart to get a 25 Kart class.
To be competitive at KPX races we have to run a new set on practice day and race day. That’s $450.00 a weekend for tires. It’s BS.
But without them you’re 2 tenths off and that’s a mile when 1st and 2nd are sometimes separated by a couple thousands.

We will be moving to the teen Miata challenge mid season next year while running Pro Kart series. And try to get competitive in Miata by 2021 season.
I’ve been struggling with the fact I may never get to build my 74 because of racing costs. I may set on it for a couple more years until we figure out if he has real talent. Otherwise I’ll be selling to fund F3.




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911heaven 07-14-2019 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10523472)
The tire changes suck and kill the sport. There has been a lot of talk about Karting at the club level being dead because of soft tires that last one race. There used to be 15-20 Karts 10 years ago. Now some races have 6 Karts. You have to run Pro Kart to get a 25 Kart class.
To be competitive at KPX races we have to run a new set on practice day and race day. That’s $450.00 a weekend for tires. It’s BS.
But without them you’re 2 tenths off and that’s a mile when 1st and 2nd are sometimes separated by a couple thousands.

We will be moving to the teen Miata challenge mid season next year while running Pro Kart series. And try to get competitive in Miata by 2021 season.
I’ve been struggling with the fact I may never get to build my 74 because of racing costs. I may set on it for a couple more years until we figure out if he has real talent. Otherwise I’ll be selling to fund F3.




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What is a Miata? Is that a Jpanese car?

trader220 07-14-2019 06:57 AM

I want to punch someone Everytime I read 84 to 89 3.2 coupe. Every coupe from 84 to 89 was a 3.2 why do you have to identify one as a 3.2?

1979-930 07-14-2019 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 10523484)
What is a Miata? Is that a Jpanese car?



This is a Sugar thread; feel free to talk about whatever you want to...


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911heaven 07-14-2019 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10523501)
This is a Sugar thread; feel free to talk about whatever you want to...


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OK! If you mean Mazda Miata, I think they suck donkey dicks!

Just sayin...

Alan A 07-14-2019 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 10523382)
I don't need money to go visit Shug. IIRC, I (nicely) offered to go over there and show him how to jump start his car. I'm pretty sure I even offered to let him drive my car to see how a proper 911 handles, versus his dump truck comments. Alas, he prefers to remain anonymous so he can troll with impunity. Yes, I believe we live close to each other, but I'm not sure.

I live in Westchester County, just north of NYC. I'm happy to meet with him or any of you guys for a coffee, a beer or in my garage if you're ever in the area. I like cars. I like to talk about them, drive them, look at them and meet other like minded people. It's been a lifetime hobby that has grown over time.

There are people who act out for attention. Some throw temper tantrums. Some throw out provocative statements. Most are desperately insecure.

Or, as I said, some people are just miserable.

If you ever get up to Bear Mtn on the weekend drop me a pm.
If I’m around, I’ll pull the green one out of the garage.

dwelle 07-14-2019 07:40 AM

perhaps. but they make for great race cars with probably the lowest barrier to entry cost wise, and offer lots of classes in which to race.

if you want to get into racing cars competitively, it's hard to find a better way...

1979-930 07-14-2019 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 10523521)
OK! If you mean Mazda Miata, I think they suck donkey dicks!



Just sayin...


Ha! Try and beat one on the track.

In racing it’s about the next step and best path to Pro level. Miata racing has factory support and a teen challenge series. I’d put him in wheelbarrow racing if it were the way to go.


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matt930s 07-14-2019 08:14 AM

Sounds kinky..




Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan A (Post 10523551)
If you ever get up to Bear Mtn on the weekend drop me a pm.
If I’m around, I’ll pull the green one out of the garage.


Matt Monson 07-14-2019 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10523142)
there are like 3-4 TR versions, a rash or two as well...

I did not want to call them all out for participation sake. I even went so far as to leave pnutz off my "repetitive" ledger...

That's why I said the Kansas part. It's the only way I can keep him straight from the rest. Trackrash is an older timer and pretty straight shooter. Rat from Kansas on the other hand asks some of the more inane things.

Rawknees'Turbo 07-14-2019 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt930s (Post 10523603)
Sounds kinky..

Holy Jayzuuuuuz! I hear that NastyNick has quite the "garage"!!! :eek:

Racerbvd 07-14-2019 11:28 AM

Well, as the owner of 2 SCs and an 88 Carrera. I do like the way the G50 shifts.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563132063.jpg

amg463 07-14-2019 03:11 PM

Agreed, if you take the time to research and are in the market for the car you know a 1987,1988 and a 1989 have a G50 and nothing earlier unless someone modified it. Pointless putting it in the title for any real buyer.

sugarwood 07-14-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt930s (Post 10523464)

1988 Porsche Carrera hot rod g50 Price: $60,000


https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DGWX20/off...een-DGWX20.jpg

sugarwood 07-14-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader220 (Post 10523497)
I want to punch someone Everytime I read 84 to 89 3.2 coupe. Every coupe from 84 to 89 was a 3.2 why do you have to identify one as a 3.2?

True statement. I have gotten into the habit of doing all my Google searches as "Porsche 911 3.2" since the year is too limiting, and I hate typing Carrera, and not everyone uses that qualifier.

Matt Monson 07-14-2019 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10524126)
True statement. I have gotten into the habit of doing all my Google searches as "Porsche 911 3.2" since the year is too limiting, and I hate typing Carrera, and not everyone uses that qualifier.

And other people limit their searches using keyword “g50” because they don’t want to look at any 915 cars.

sugarwood 07-14-2019 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 10523456)
If the Sugar Meister wants to remain anonymous, I guess that is his right in a free country. I would encourage Sugar to go and do Starbucks with Nick. Bring the cars and meet up just for fun. Why not? You're in the neighborhood.

I have met several people from this forum, and have gone on several drives.

NYNick was mocking me when my massive jump cable clamps would not fit in the cavity.
As if I don't know how to jump a car battery. Whatever to that dude, on my ignore list.

crb07 07-14-2019 06:02 PM

As this thread is a bit sideways would it be ok to discuss my g50-50 89 Turbo?

trader220 07-14-2019 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt930s (Post 10523464)

Did you mean to post this in the "Prices that make me Laugh" thread ?

JMS935 07-14-2019 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crb07 (Post 10524206)
As this thread is a bit sideways would it be ok to discuss my g50-50 89 Turbo?

That might make sugarwoodie throw his computer out the window.

Cobalt 07-15-2019 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10524241)
That might make sugarwoodie throw his computer out the window.

If we can only be so lucky.

I drove 901 and 915 cars for years. The G50 IMO is just so much better. In fact I have three cars with G50 trans one has a G50/05 one a G50/52 and the other a G50/30. I also have a spare G50/64 a G50/05 and a G50/20. With varying G50 parts.

Did I mention how superior the G50 was over the 915. Not that the 915 is a bad box. It just isn't a G50.

matt930s 07-15-2019 05:09 AM

I think G-fiddy owners are a superior bunch; I strive to own another G-fiddy one day...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-G50-5-Speed-Shortened-by-Aase-Brothers-to-Replace-915-in-Earlier-911-/233192498967?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt (Post 10524521)
If we can only be so lucky.

I drove 901 and 915 cars for years. The G50 IMO is just so much better. In fact I have three cars with G50 trans one has a G50/05 one a G50/52 and the other a G50/30. I also have a spare G50/64 a G50/05 and a G50/20. With varying G50 parts.

Did I mention how superior the G50 was over the 915. Not that the 915 is a bad box. It just isn't a G50.


Racerbvd 07-15-2019 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt930s (Post 10524532)

That is cheap for a shortened G-50, and you still need the rest of the bits to use it..

911heaven 07-15-2019 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10523558)
Ha! Try and beat one on the track.

In racing it’s about the next step and best path to Pro level. Miata racing has factory support and a teen challenge series. I’d put him in wheelbarrow racing if it were the way to go.


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Sorry Deez, I thought you were in the driver's seat. Sounds like you have a son driver, so understand now. Also I get you on cost to return ratio via racing. I have never owned one or even touched one. I'm like Shultz on Hogan's Heros i.e. I know nothing -- about them!


Incidentally, I might have an old contact that might be useful? AUS/JAP or Mazda Speed. Same person, Steve Thatcher in Sydney Australia. He rented a room in my house 99- 2001. He was the biggest used parts supplier to AUS then @ 70 containers a year. He had to vacate due to economic reasons then e.g. Kyoto protocol and recessionary factors. He still does containers out of Nagano Prefecture to this day.

Back then I stayed at his house on a trip, met his customers in AUS. He was well into those Miata cars then, I don't know about now. I haven't spoken to him in years! Still have his number though. Even after he left I sent him a couple Porsche 911 and an Evo Lancer 5 which they raced in Tasmania, not to mention all the gems he got while living here. I would say he's getting older now, so don't know what he's up to. Not that I care. He was dead into those Miata though, and if he still is, he would have some good info or contacts still that might be of benefit. Check out those names if you want. If you need me in Japan for parts I can always try in time of need. At the moment, I know Nothing!

bernie

1979-930 07-15-2019 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 10524587)
Sorry Deez, I thought you were in the driver's seat. Sounds like you have a son driver, so understand now. Also I get you on cost to return ratio via racing. I have never owned one or even touched one. I'm like Shultz on Hogan's Heros i.e. I know nothing -- about them!





Incidentally, I might have an old contact that might be useful? AUS/JAP or Mazda Speed. Same person, Steve Thatcher in Sydney Australia. He rented a room in my house 99- 2001. He was the biggest used parts supplier to AUS then @ 70 containers a year. He had to vacate due to economic reasons then e.g. Kyoto protocol and recessionary factors. He still does containers out of Nagano Prefecture to this day.



Back then I stayed at his house on a trip, met his customers in AUS. He was well into those Miata cars then, I don't know about now. I haven't spoken to him in years! Still have his number though. Even after he left I sent him a couple Porsche 911 and an Evo Lancer 5 which they raced in Tasmania, not to mention all the gems he got while living here. I would say he's getting older now, so don't know what he's up to. Not that I care. He was dead into those Miata though, and if he still is, he would have some good info or contacts still that might be of benefit. Check out those names if you want. If you need me in Japan for parts I can always try in time of need. At the moment, I know Nothing!



bernie



Yes; my son is the one having all the fun. No need to be sorry. Thanks for the offer.

Shameless proud Dad post...

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juanbenae 07-15-2019 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10524138)

NYNick was mocking me when my massive jump cable clamps would not fit in the cavity.
As if I don't know how to jump a car battery. Whatever to that dude, on my ignore list.


his list grows! welcome to the club nick!

911heaven 07-15-2019 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crb07 (Post 10524206)
As this thread is a bit sideways would it be ok to discuss my g50-50 89 Turbo?

Yes!
Pardon my ignorance, but what would a G50-50, and an R50-50 have in common, or different? Are ratios similar or that different?
bernie

911heaven 07-15-2019 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10524138)
I have met several people from this forum, and have gone on several drives.

NYNick was mocking me when my massive jump cable clamps would not fit in the cavity.
As if I don't know how to jump a car battery. Whatever to that dude, on my ignore list.

Oops! Seems like the Sug doesn't have armadillo skin after all Nick. Maybe an apology is in order for the mock in Sugars eyes. Maybe then he'd flip the bill at Starbucks. Just a thought..

JMS935 07-15-2019 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 10524756)
Yes!
Pardon my ignorance, but what would a G50-50, and an R50-50 have in common, or different? Are ratios similar or that different?
bernie

Maybe this helps...

https://patrickmotorsports.com/products/tra-r50-50-0243

911heaven 07-16-2019 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS935 (Post 10524795)

Thank you JMS935. I've seen this link before about a month ago. Also I already learned the ratios off of Axel84 thread before that. Therefore, my question remains -- how similar are they or different. I know one is 5 speed and the other 6 speed. Other than that, I know nothing! An 89 G50-50 must be turbo. Must be hard to come by, must be expensive and ultimately popular no? If Sugar were to someday ascertain a G-50, would the G50-50 be the ultimate?

NYNick 07-16-2019 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10521062)
He does, but this isn’t one of them. This is so catastrophically stupid we should all just ignore it.

Matt,

I was thinking of asking you to help me put a G50 into a Dump Truck but realized I may never be able to jump start it.SmileWavy

JMS935 07-16-2019 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911heaven (Post 10525742)
Thank you JMS935. I've seen this link before about a month ago. Also I already learned the ratios off of Axel84 thread before that. Therefore, my question remains -- how similar are they or different. I know one is 5 speed and the other 6 speed. Other than that, I know nothing! An 89 G50-50 must be turbo. Must be hard to come by, must be expensive and ultimately popular no? If Sugar were to someday ascertain a G-50, would the G50-50 be the ultimate?

It’s definitely a turbo transmission with an extra gear. I’ve never driven a 6 speed 930 transmission, can’t imagine I’d like it all that much. I prefer the 4 speed over the 5, so adding an extra gear on top of the 5 speed just means a lot more shifting to me.

nathanbs 07-16-2019 05:20 AM

Wait, what!? Are you over your tantrum Sugarstick?
“Are you not allowed to track an '88 Targa?
Most people do DE, and you just race against yourself.
Nothing wrong with a G50 as a track car.
In fact, better than a modern 3600 lb 911” signed the almighty Sucrose
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