The sins of the Father

[Unobtanium-inc]

What is it about the guys in the 80's taking every longhood and making it into a big red wide body. I did a three car deal this week that had not one, but two of these!

I curse you guys in the 80's who had no respect for a longhood!

---Adam

[spyerx]

We may all look at back dating the same way in 30 years!

[zedsn]

I think that they look fine.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by spyerx

We may all look at back dating the same way in 30 years!

I doubt it. One was trying to be new and cutting edge. The other is nostalgia.

[ryans65]

It won't be the backdating it will be all the "hot rods" that we will be restoring back to whatever they started life as. There may be a cottage industry on making metal discs in various diameters to fill in all the speed holes and body lightening holes too. So stupid but to each their own.

[Alan A]

Talking of lightening holes, anyone see the one on FB that was turned into a colander?

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Alan A

Talking of lightening holes, anyone see the one on FB that was turned into a colander?

I did. outrageous... gave a coupe targa rigidity….

there is a thread currently in the tech forum where a guy is asking about doing his transmission cross mount..

[ryans65]

The ones that really get me are when holes are drilled in the structure of body panels in the name of saving weight. I know there were a ton of these things produced but I cringe when I see good hoods and decklids being drilled to oblivion. I'm not a purist douche but I'm still a little bit of an originality or period correct douche and it irritates me. Even when we were racing the thought of drilling holes everywhere to save weight never ever crossed our minds because we were usually already UNDER weight and adding ballast.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

I did. outrageous... gave a coupe targa rigidity….

there is a thread currently in the tech forum where a guy is asking about doing his transmission cross mount..

I’ve started to reply to that thread 3 times, and keep deleting my comments without posting. I won’t be clicking that thread again.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by zedsn

I think that they look fine.

Same here.



And the added lightness malarkey is simply a lament by the folks who don't know how to build a real engine (my version of the awesome quote by Ferrari about the obsession with aerodynamics).

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I’ve started to reply to that thread 3 times, and keep deleting my comments without posting. I won’t be clicking that thread again.

You don’t like the idea of a screen door protecting in case your clutch grenades or flywheel shears off?(does that even happen?) is he the same guy that built the 912 and 356 with all of the copper and engraving?

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I’ve started to reply to that thread 3 times, and keep deleting my comments without posting. I won’t be clicking that thread again.

sorry M2..... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1062102-has-anyone-put-speed-holes-into-transmission-carrier-crossmember-mount.html



as I pointed out in the thread the fiberglass race seat being drilled showed the overall thought that went into that thing, or lack of. any lateral force applied to that thing could shatter it and gut the driver like a fish.

step away from the drill dummy...

[1979-930]

The 80's was a period of excess and showing off.
Everyone wanted the Turbo, not a narrow body. In high school my friends older brother worked at a shop putting 959 kit bodies on long hoods. Those were an atrocity.

I distinctly remember setting in a early 70's Irish Green Targa in his driveway they just got at auction to flip as a 959.
They ruined that car. Put freaking corvette wheels on it.

[spyerx]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I doubt it. One was trying to be new and cutting edge. The other is nostalgia.

I hope so...

Originally Posted by 1979-930

The 80's was a period of excess and showing off.
Everyone wanted the Turbo, not a narrow body. In high school my friends older brother worked at a shop putting 959 kit bodies on long hoods. Those were an atrocity.

it wasn't all that long ago that these were all "just old cars"

Originally Posted by ryans65

It won't be the backdating it will be all the "hot rods" that we will be restoring back to whatever they started life as. There may be a cottage industry on making metal discs in various diameters to fill in all the speed holes and body lightening holes too. So stupid but to each their own.

Hahaha... I might be guilty of that. 964 is beyond point of return, 71T is a 'mild' call it 'spirit of sports purpose' of hot rod. 997RS may be better stock for the street!

I am NOT guilty of drilling holes for weight saving. That's thread is kinda nuts. I dropped 400+ lbs off my 964 and not a single hole drilled and safety/chassis strength increased.

[911heaven]

Speaking of long hood originality, got a question for Adam.... or anyone that has insight. Sold an early S alloy deck lid here last week @ 2.6K my best one. Got 2 more to go/sell. Next one has the hole for rear wiper option. Shouldn't that one go for higher price on rarity?? I mean, how many cars had rear wiper, and of those an original aluminum rear lid? I just thought it might be worth more to the right guy who needed it. How many guys could you find like that?? None?

Thanks for any feedback.
bernie

[Munky King]

Nice to see the formerly signal orange 71 up on the bay of e.
Looks like a great start for a hot rod.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by Munky King

Nice to see the formerly signal orange 71 up on the bay of e.
Looks like a great start for a hot rod.

Yup, apparently people can see the beauty of this one, it's already over $20,000.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254611114425

[Matt Monson]

That 73 targa just listed in the classifieds doesn't sound like a bad project either. $29k may be a touch steep but it's got potential.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

That 73 targa just listed in the classifieds doesn't sound like a bad project either. $29k may be a touch steep but it's got potential.

It's real hard to sell a Targa project right now, I know, I have a yard full of them....

The last one I sold took months and it didn't sell for much.

---Adam

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

It's real hard to sell a Targa project right now, I know, I have a yard full of them....

The last one I sold took months and it didn't sell for much.

---Adam

So what's the issue?
Cost to restore too high, or general market conditions?
I know - at least in my limited experience - that getting decent paint is crazy expensive.