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6S219 06-30-2020 06:45 PM

Don’t know which way to go
 
I’m considering purchasing one of the following;
-1973 Carrera
-1974 Carrera
Or a backdated 911 with an engine swap built as a tribute as a Carrera RS.

Since I’ve been looking I have noticed that some of these backdate cars cost more than the original 73 or 74 Carrera’s. If I go the backdated direction I prefer a car that is done tastefully.

When spending this kind of money on one of these cars I can’t help but look at the investment value, I’m wondering if it will remain the same or is there a bubble about to burst on the air cooled cars?

Thanks advance for the replies.

Mocker 06-30-2020 08:32 PM

Not sure any backdated car is anywhere near the cost of a real 2.7 Carrera. If you’ve got the do re mi, and you’re looking at an investment car, go with the real deal for anything close to the price of a backdate.

Matt Monson 07-01-2020 03:37 AM

Depends on if you plan to drive it or just park money in it.

1979-930 07-01-2020 06:19 AM

The car you fantasize about driving. I like the 74 out of those choices. It's a one year only style.

70SATMan 07-01-2020 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6S219 (Post 10929225)
I’m considering purchasing one of the following;
-1973 Carrera
-1974 Carrera
Or a backdated 911 with an engine swap built as a tribute as a Carrera RS.

Since I’ve been looking I have noticed that some of these backdate cars cost more than the original 73 or 74 Carrera’s. If I go the backdated direction I prefer a car that is done tastefully.

When spending this kind of money on one of these cars I can’t help but look at the investment value, I’m wondering if it will remain the same or is there a bubble about to burst on the air cooled cars?

Thanks advance for the replies.

Can't help but wonder about this post. With the limited information you've given, your choices and dollars are all over the map. For instance what flavor of '74 are you referencing? CIS 2.7, MFI 2.7 or 3.0? '73 Touring or Lightweight? Series I or II?

Backdate to a '73 or 74? Built to spec or real 2.7 MFI? What back date costs more than a real 73 RS other than a maxed out Singer?

NYNick 07-01-2020 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10929598)
The car you fantasize about driving. I like the 74 out of those choices. It's a one year only style.

Not sure he fantasizes about any of them. Did you see his stable?

wgwollet 07-01-2020 11:49 AM

Kinda odd

Macroni 07-01-2020 12:16 PM

2006 Ford GT
2006 Porsche Carrera S
2010 Ferrari 599 GTB
2009 Porsche C4S
2010 Porsche GT3RS Viper Green

Buy the 73 2.7L RS..... They have come down a few hundred thousand dollars..... a nice one is $500Kish..... they are beyond fun to drive and will hold value better than any other Porsche this side of a trendy "Singer".

Mocker 07-01-2020 12:20 PM

^ My point exactly.

1979-930 07-01-2020 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 10930026)
Not sure he fantasizes about any of them. Did you see his stable?

Holy s***. I never click on garages. That's just too much stuff to deal with for me.

Matt Monson 07-01-2020 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10930203)
Holy s***. I never click on garages. That's just too much stuff to deal with for me.

It’s in his signature. I’m guessing tapatalk doesn’t show that to you.

trader220 07-01-2020 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 10930089)
2006 Ford GT
2006 Porsche Carrera S
2010 Ferrari 599 GTB
2009 Porsche C4S
2010 Porsche GT3RS Viper Green

Buy the 73 2.7L RS..... They have come down a few hundred thousand dollars..... a nice one is $500Kish..... they are beyond fun to drive and will hold value better than any other Porsche this side of a trendy "Singer".

If money is not an obstacle Mac is spot on. They've really come down in price from the insane top.

NYNick 07-01-2020 02:58 PM

The OP never mentioned a 2.7RS. He only mentioned a 2.7RS Tribute. Somehow that got lost in the sauce and the thread went off the rails.

juanbenae 07-01-2020 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 10930026)
Not sure he fantasizes about any of them. Did you see his stable?

yea, when I looked at that from the outset first thing that came to mind was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OTk5JBB__A

Matt Monson 07-01-2020 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 10930302)
The OP never mentioned a 2.7RS. He only mentioned a 2.7RS Tribute. Somehow that got lost in the sauce and the thread went off the rails.

What’s the difference between a 73 Carrera and an RS? ;)

Me personally? I’d get a 76-77 C3 and hot rod it. Build the engine with EFI and 325-340hp. And have fun with it.

NYNick 07-01-2020 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10930358)
What’s the difference between a 73 Carrera and an RS? ;)

Me personally? I’d get a 76-77 C3 and hot rod it. Build the engine with EFI and 325-340hp. And have fun with it.

Ah, missed that.

6S219 07-01-2020 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10929449)
Depends on if you plan to drive it or just park money in it.

Our cars are driven. We believe in using cars for the purpose they were designed. We enjoy vintage racing (mostly HMSA and General Racing LTD events) my wife and I both have Shelby GT350's (her's is a 65 mine a 66). The "Vintage" Porsche I'm considering is something that will be used, it won't be a "garage queen". Rallys, mountain cruises, fun runs, etc.

I think I am leaning towards a 1973 RS Tribute that has been nicely modified (3.2L, suspension, and brake upgrades) also about 1/2 the price of a real Carrera RS.

I am not new to vintage cars (own and have owned several cool cars) but I am new to "Vintage" Porsche's.

I appreciate the helpful feedback.

70SATMan 07-01-2020 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6S219 (Post 10930410)

I think I am leaning towards a 1973 RS Tribute that has been nicely modified (3.2L, suspension, and brake upgrades) also about 1/2 the price of a real Carrera RS.


I appreciate the helpful feedback.

Give me half the price of a 73RS and I'll find you three "tributes". You've some homework to do I'm afraid.

pmax 07-01-2020 10:35 PM

Talk about a first world problem !
73 Carrera, 74 Carrera, what difference does it make ?

Need any tranny parts ?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1063012-i-m-doing-thing-new-post.html

What, too soon ?

Macroni 07-02-2020 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6S219 (Post 10930410)
The "Vintage" Porsche I'm considering is something that will be used, it won't be a "garage queen". Rallys, mountain cruises, fun runs, etc.

I think I am leaning towards a 1973 RS Tribute that has been nicely modified (3.2L, suspension, and brake upgrades) also about 1/2 the price of a real Carrera RS.

I appreciate the helpful feedback.

Here was my 73T: modified w/ a 3.2L, Carrera suspension and Turbo Brakes...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/414662-metamorphosis-complete-welcome-home.html

The car was a hoot. I sold it to a nice gentlemen who has me on speed dial for when he is done with it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593689977.jpg

On a fun mountain rally.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593690598.jpg

nathanbs 07-02-2020 05:47 AM

Custom build more than a 73RS = not many other than Singer. A custom build more than a 74 euro carrera = most properly built high end builds are more

1979-930 07-02-2020 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10930248)
It’s in his signature. I’m guessing tapatalk doesn’t show that to you.


Tapatalk shows none of that. Clicked the garage link at work yesterday.
Love the stable except for the Ferraris. Those and Lambos do nothing for me.
The air cooled Porsche is a lot like the 60s Mustangs in their simplicity, performance ability and coolness.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

NYNick 07-02-2020 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10930906)
Tapatalk shows none of that. Clicked the garage link at work yesterday.
Love the stable except for the Ferraris. Those and Lambos do nothing for me.
The air cooled Porsche is a lot like the 60s Mustangs in their simplicity, performance ability and coolness.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I could be VERY tempted by a GT350, real or well done Tribute with suspension and brake mods. It's in my top 5 favorites of all time. You can keep the GT500. OP has his and hers 350's!

omnivore 07-02-2020 09:48 AM

Has anyone seen this? Dick Elvirude 2.7 and Jerry Woods 915, short gears, Canepa fettled. I’d sell my 4C for this to get back into the fold.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-carrera-18/

‘Course Raw would not approve!

Matt Monson 07-02-2020 09:59 AM

There’s plenty of decent ones around. Here’s another white one if the Carrera RS looks is your thing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1065066-1970-911e-hot-rod.html

The next question becomes do you want to build a car to suit or buy someone else’s already Done. If you want to build one you’ve got 911 Design local to you. They’ve got a car in there right now they are calling the turbo rsr. I think it’s a 72 chassis but has a 3.4 turbo and g50 conversion. Worth seeing in person if you want to “interview” a builder for the job.

6S219 07-02-2020 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 10930795)
Here was my 73T: modified w/ a 3.2L, Carrera suspension and Turbo Brakes...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/414662-metamorphosis-complete-welcome-home.html

The car was a hoot. I sold it to a nice gentlemen who has me on speed dial for when he is done with it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593689977.jpg

On a fun mountain rally.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593690598.jpg

very nice! that's along the lines of what I am looking for.

6S219 07-02-2020 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10931249)
There’s plenty of decent ones around. Here’s another white one if the Carrera RS looks is your thing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1065066-1970-911e-hot-rod.html

The next question becomes do you want to build a car to suit or buy someone else’s already Done. If you want to build one you’ve got 911 Design local to you. They’ve got a car in there right now they are calling the turbo rsr. I think it’s a 72 chassis but has a 3.4 turbo and g50 conversion. Worth seeing in person if you want to “interview” a builder for the job.

I came across that car yesterday. It may be worthwhile to go see it.
911 design is 10 minutes from where I live. I did not know this but the owner of 911 design is married to Bruce Canepa daughter. I happen to be wearing one of there shirts today.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593725356.jpg

Matt Monson 07-02-2020 01:53 PM

Yes he is. She's a sweetheart, and her husband Loren is pretty awesome too.

The nice thing is they are all in one. They have a paint and body division and then a mechanical division. And a Motorsports division. Nice little mini museum too. Jeff Zwart's Pikes Peak 964 is there and the old 45 Flying Lizards 996 RSR, among other. Delivery van is a 993 swapped transporter. Fun shop to visit.

1979-930 07-02-2020 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 10931010)
I could be VERY tempted by a GT350, real or well done Tribute with suspension and brake mods. It's in my top 5 favorites of all time. You can keep the GT500. OP has his and hers 350's!


My brother has a 65 fastback 2+2 he’s owned since 1981.
It’s blue on blue with the custom diamond tuck upholstery the prior owner installed in the 70’s. :D
It’s a true survivor car.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

NYNick 07-02-2020 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10931644)
My brother has a 65 fastback 2+2 he’s owned since 1981.
It’s blue on blue with the custom diamond tuck upholstery the prior owner installed in the 70’s. :D
It’s a true survivor car.

that too

WSH 07-02-2020 04:38 PM

Reid Jensen, aka 6S219, is a deadbeat non-payer
Banned on Rennlist
Pay me the money you owe me deadbeat Reid Jensen !!

6S219 07-02-2020 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSH (Post 10931779)
Reid Jensen, aka 6S219, is a deadbeat non-payer
Banned on Rennlist
Pay me the money you owe me deadbeat Reid Jensen !!

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure you know what slander is don't you?

6S219 07-02-2020 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSH (Post 10931779)
Reid Jensen, aka 6S219, is a deadbeat non-payer
Banned on Rennlist
Pay me the money you owe me deadbeat Reid Jensen !!

Lets not hide it, what do you think I owe you money for?

pmax 07-02-2020 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSH (Post 10931779)
Reid Jensen, aka 6S219, is a deadbeat non-payer
Banned on Rennlist
Pay me the money you owe me deadbeat Reid Jensen !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6S219 (Post 10931840)
I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure you know what slander is don't you?


Good to see this thread living up to its PPMPF potential !

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593757316.jpg

matt930s 07-03-2020 04:15 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593778449.gif


Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10932024)
Good to see this thread living up to its PPMPF potential !

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593757316.jpg


WSH 07-03-2020 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6S219 (Post 10931843)
Lets not hide it, what do you think I owe you money for?

914 Brochure

Shipped to you last year, you've yet to pay
Have sent you dozens of PM's on Rennlist
Your only response was "what did I buy,don't remember", then nothing
I've sent you my paypal dozens of times
You got the item, pay up

Not slander when it's the truth
I shipped the item--have the tracking # and confirmation---and you've been banned on RL by the mods for non payment

JMS935 07-03-2020 06:12 AM

This is a doozy!

I’ve got two very basic questions I’m sure we’re all wondering about...

Why would WSH ship an item before receiving payment for it?

And

WTF does 6S219 stand for?

Matt Monson 07-03-2020 06:43 AM

2006 Carrera S vin#219

juanbenae 07-03-2020 07:08 AM

now we are getting somewhere!

NYNick 07-03-2020 07:54 AM

$13 on Ebay...this?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Porsche-914-Original-Car-Sales-Brochure-Folder-/312314549380


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