Need help or advise after being scammed
 

Hi All,
I have bought this car about 3 weeks ago

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/winter-park-euro-1978-porsche-911-sc/7326571691.html

I bought many cars in US and this is the very first time I've got trapped.
Before paying I got the seller passport, spoke to hime over the phone, asked for many pictures even some hard to find details for a non knowledgeable average connoisseur to make sure I was buying from someone honest.

Then I paid the car to his bank account, asked a shipping company to pick up and the seller phone wasn't working anymore.
The advert also disapeared also from carigslist.
Today somehow !! the advert is again on.
I was wondering if it's the same scammer, probably yes and what could I do to get him through the police may be ?
May be someone form the forum could contact him through the advert to ask for some details pretending to buy the car and ask for his phone number.

Many thanks if someone could help me getting my money back and get this guy out of business.

Sorry brother, I think you got scammed (I hope I'm wrong). I've seen that car posted around the country in the past.

Capturing before it disappears.

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That's the one, but I don't get why he is so stupid to repost the car again so the scammer can get spotted

These guys don't care and they are often operating from overseas; not sure what recourse you have, but I would get ahold of the authorities and your bank maybe as a start.

He was using a USA mobile phone number

Those numbers are spoofed all the time (or could be a burner phone).

I remember that car. It was actually for sale a couple years back. Sorry you got taken.

A lot of these Florida scammers are really in Puerto Rico. Still US but may as well be a foreign country in an instance like this.

Asking price of $26K should gave been a dead give away.

I just don’t get sending thousands of dollars off to the twilight zone.

My sympathies. I wish you good luck in getting your money back.

By the way, it appears that the pics were lifted from a BAT auction from March 2018 (I use an internet search tool called TinEye).

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-porsche-911sc-3-0-3/

Quelle surprise. You really thought you were going to be able to buy a clean SC for $26k USD? Where did you leave your brain when you woke up that day? Either a 1Ton baguette fell on your head or all the foie gras you've been eating crossed some of the wires in your brain.

No need to be a ****….

Yeah no need to kick the guy while he's down.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. However, my two cents for the OP:

If I were you I would lean hard on the bank via a local lawyer. The Routing Number identifies the bank. Your wire instructions should have specified the branch address. I would look for a lawyer local to that branch and engage them to lean hard on them.

Also this is a clear case of wire fraud so the FBI has jurisdiction. They have much bigger fishes to fry but there's no harm in reporting the fraud on their website, worst case they won't get back to you.

as i recall it that's kinda his thing??

The FBI doesn't care, you willingly sent money, and they really don't care if someone in another country did it, sad but true.

The takeaway from this is if it's a super smoking deal on craigslist, and the ad has been up for more than an hour, it's a scam, every time.

---Adam

It breaks my heart to hear this porschenstock! Call the FBI anyway. Nothing to lose, and they might care who knows?! I sure hope you find the right lead to getting your situation resolved, get your money back. Where there's a will, there's a way, and there's more than one way to skin a cat. I was thinking also about interpol, yet I don't know if that helps.

Not that I'd have expected you, being in France, to have picked it up, but the pictures were taken in California. There is a CA plate on the Prius in the background and it just looks like CA.

Thanks for the advices, first I'll call the bank to see if they can contact the scammer bank, I have bought hundred's of cars from US and never ever got any problem, sometimes you think than you are clever and take enough security checks but not this time, for AMG 463, foie gras and baguette don't do that much damage.

The old saying, if it’s to good to be true it probably is. Price was way low for a car in that condition.

You are right, next time I will ask for a PPI, so someone close will be able to see if the car is real

You have reached out to Pelican members after the scam. In the future please post a request for another Pelican member to vet the car and person before sending money. If the car were supposedly in my area I'd be happy to go look at it for you and give you a quick "all checks out". I think many Pelicans would do the same.

What does a passport have to do with a car purchase? How is a picture of a passport proof of anything?

Adam has posted some great advice in the past on how to long distance buy and sell. Unique pictures with something obscure on or in the car sent immediately after your request is a good one.

I recently sold a car to a long distance buyer. After we talked on the phone we used Facetime so he could go over the car in real time and ask any question he wanted. Being wholly satisfied, buyer then wired me the money and had the car picked up a few days later.

Yup, hard to fake something like this. Where are you going to find a hua-hua on a moment's notice?

Ramon said he needed me to prove it was my car and in my possession. I said how about me, your name, the date, the car, and my very old Hua-Hua named Sadie!
---Adam





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I know a few old Hua's who are available on short notice....

Midnight Run movie again, and the towels gon getchu!

Lucky you, I'm down to only one! Archie.

---Adam
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Beauty and the Beast. Love the great pics, and I love those shades, and the jacket adorning the beast!

Well, post a pic of the passport and the contact info you were given.

Someone in this business here probably knows who he is given the p-car "non average connoissuer" credentials and knows how to get a hold of him. At a minimum, this could help prevents others from being scammed.

Good luck.

It couldn’t hurt but I’m sure all of that stuff was fraudulent too and will lead to a dead end. The sorry truth is the OP will never see his money again. Police don’t have the best record of solving property crimes and probably won’t even be bothered to try in this instance. Don’t let your greed cloud your judgment next time.

One bad deal out of hundreds of cars purchased online from a foreign country seems like a pretty good track record to me.

Hi All,

Just to keep you posted,
One of my USA friends called the seller, he answered and said than the car was still available !!
From my shipper:

I called him. He answered the phone on me, not knowing who I am. Told me that the Porsche is still available for sale. Than I told him who I am, he hanged up the phone on me.

Things I have done:

a) Contact the bank that he send money to, fraud department and explain to them whats going on and file a report, the bank is a TD Bank Branch, very hard to get in contact unless you have a bank account or a credit card with them, so I was unable to get in touch with them.
b) Call the local police department next to the address where the seller said the car is and explain to them the situation
c) Find FBI's white collar crime division and file a complaint

I will attached his contact and passport picture.
Donna Chenkin
Address is: 5157 Pine Ridge Dr, Chipley, FL 32428
Cell Phone: 920 355 2364

Email address:

doncreate8@gmail.com

Wire Instruction:
Account Name: Donna Chenkin
Bank Name: TD Bank USA
Checking Account # 4387021820
Best regardsSwift code: NRTHUS33XXX
Routing# 031101266
Bank address: 6000 Atrium way Mount Laurel, NJ 08054

First he has sent me the saving account !! But the money has bounced

Saving account: 00006791171340

Now with the checking the money has been cleared on his account.

Title and ID

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https://www.td.com/us/en/personal-banking/contact-us/

The Bank

As I mentioned, you might report him to INTERPOL. He's Romanian born, got US citizenship at some point before 2013. They may have a track record of this guy's white collar crime activities in Europe or elsewhere and he may be of interest to them blah blah blah. One never knows ...?

Thanks, I will check Interpol website to find some contact infos.

I hope you nail him down, get your money back. He's 59 years old, so he must have a track record if he's still doing this! Go get him!! Make it a part of your passion and don't lose your passion until you nail him down full stop. SmileWavy

Unless its a fake ID which I probably think, thanks.