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Kansas 10-12-2021 01:03 PM

Thinking about doing an RS conversion through Werks 11
 
Anyone have any familiarity with Werks 11 out of Temple Texas? Thinking about doing an RS conversion of my SC. Only hesitation is that my car except for a brand new respray is very original with only 83k miles. Would doing a RS conversion devalue the car, especially since I’m leaving the engine, suspension, interior and all mechanicals stock SC?

Matt Monson 10-12-2021 01:18 PM

Never heard of them.

Kansas 10-12-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11483358)
Never heard of them.


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mbintx 10-12-2021 03:08 PM

Have not had a personal vehicle serviced or modified at Werks 11, but have been at their shop several times for visits and tech sessions. Very impressed with their owner and their work. They pull in a lot of clients from surrounding larger cities.

blyguy 10-12-2021 04:07 PM

I think you will lose value since the car will still be a stock SC underneath an RS replica body. With only 83k miles its very valuable in it's stock form.

That being said, value is only there if you sell the car. If you want to keep it forever and want to drive an RS replica that's up to you! :)

I have no experience with Werks 11. Good luck

Kansas 10-12-2021 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blyguy (Post 11483570)
I think you will lose value since the car will still be a stock SC underneath an RS replica body. With only 83k miles its very valuable in it's stock form.

That being said, value is only there if you sell the car. If you want to keep it forever and want to drive an RS replica that's up to you! :)

I have no experience with Werks 11. Good luck

Kinda what I figured. Thanks for the sound advice.

oakland 10-12-2021 05:57 PM

Curious… what’s the rate for an RS conversion?

Matt Monson 10-12-2021 06:36 PM

I agree with blyguy. I suspect he’s built a nice little regional brand for himself and does nice work. However, that’s not enough to make the car worth any more by having him do the “conversion”, whatever that means. Rice has never returned an increasing value to a car, and in this instance likely would decreases its value by destroying the originality. Should have bought that 40 grand TLG engine and gearbox on BAT yesterday if you want a conversion that pays.

Kansas 10-12-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oakland (Post 11483695)
Curious… what’s the rate for an RS conversion?

I’ve come across a couple of companies that sell the conversion kits starting at around $7k.

NYNick 10-13-2021 05:09 AM

I wouldn't do it. Thousands of longhoods were forward dated back in the day, and now people are doing everything they can to bring them back.

What's the motivation? I can't see the car getting that much better for the money.

Matt Monson 10-13-2021 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 11483941)
I wouldn't do it. Thousands of longhoods were forward dated back in the day, and now people are doing everything they can to bring them back.

What's the motivation? I can't see the car getting that much better for the money.

It’s not an insignificant amount of weight lost off both ends of the car. While I called it rice, it does actually add lightness.

911heaven 10-13-2021 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11483952)
It’s not an insignificant amount of weight lost off both ends of the car. While I called it rice, it does actually add lightness.

I like a Brazilian butt lift too! It adds lightness, but it costs money and when the girl gets older, it all comes back! I like better what Nick said -- show me the money! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrag8ll85w

Macroni 10-13-2021 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NYNick (Post 11483941)
I wouldn't do it. Thousands of longhoods were forward dated back in the day, and now people are doing everything they can to bring them back.

What's the motivation? I can't see the car getting that much better for the money.

It is all about looks...... nothing to do with performance..... Buyers will reward this and based upon recent sales they will reward handsomely.....

NYNick 10-13-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11483952)
It’s not an insignificant amount of weight lost off both ends of the car. While I called it rice, it does actually add lightness.

If that's true, then I'm cool with it. I'm a big fan of lightening.
I thought it was maybe just cosmetic. Not a big fan of just that.
Both together? Now we're onto something.

Kansas 10-13-2021 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 11484184)
It is all about looks...... nothing to do with performance..... Buyers will reward this and based upon recent sales they will reward handsomely.....

Hmm. Seems to run contrary to what the others are saying, but I do think that if the backdate is done by a reputable shop, it can add to its value. That being said, I think I’d rather just keep it stock. At best, it’s a break even proposition anyways.

Racerbvd 10-13-2021 09:18 AM

How about just back date to a 74?
Then all you have to do is add a duck tail and script along the side.
A buddies 86 911.
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Kansas 10-13-2021 09:30 AM

Pretty sharp. Just missing the aluminum trim.

Munky King 10-13-2021 06:18 PM

There are a few advantages of a back dated car. Including the galvanized panels and some would argue ‘boxes and engines. If you pull out some weight at the same time, that can only be a bonus!

I struggle most with the rear arch width on backdates, as I really like the narrow body style and handling, and that would mean a lot of messing with the rear quarter panel.

The RS backdate makes the most sense of the existing rear arch. You have to ask yourself if the car is a keeper or not. If it is, then you know you are starting with a good base that you’re not going to be pouring money into, only to find a big issue with the engine, hidden rot etc that you end up pouring more money into just to get back to where you were!

The ‘big boys’ always seem to start with a nice car, rather than the projects I’ve normally started with. I bet it saves them money in the long run, as they often don’t want to do it themselves so save the extra labor hours fixing up a ratty wreck.

If you are really careful, you could always make it reversible. Save the hood, fenders, bumpers, mirrors etc and use one of Getty’s long hood conversion hoods and fill panel. But I bet you never use them and they are tucked away on a shelf until you decide they are just too much in the way!

Matt Monson 10-13-2021 06:22 PM

I’ve had the parts, a mix of fiberglass and steel, in my barn for 8 years. Only thing I’m missing is rear flares and a latch panel.

Porsche Doc 10-14-2021 12:29 PM

I know some guys….
 
I know some guys in East Tennessee! SmileWavy
Ya might check them out.
https://www.facebook.com/AirCooledClassicsPorsche/

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