Thank goodness for comments in online auctions

[Rick Brooklyn]

All y'all who say the peanut gallery on BaT is bad, look at this. Some guy showed up and revealed that this car has been wrecked twice.

https://marqued.com/listing/5a79ab62-dbf8-461b-94c3-0bcbc824e7d2/1988-porsche-911-carrera-coupe-commemorative-edition

In a private listing on eBay or whatever, 90% of good faith buyers would have seen a nice looking car and ended up with a 2x4 in their backside.

[juanbenae]

what an outing!

[Rick Brooklyn]

The plot thickens - the seller says the other guy is full of **** and tried to buy the car on the side and is sabotaging the auction in bad faith.

[matt930s]

Still a damn pretty car; maybe the current owner wasn’t aware? Or maybe the call out ain’t legit?

[touringmandan]

May be the lighting, but the cowl looks 3 shades darker than the refinished hood.
Can see the roll bar mount pad on the right rear inner quarter.
Tell it like it is, Bro.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Rick Brooklyn

The plot thickens - the seller says the other guy is full of **** and tried to buy the car on the side and is sabotaging the auction in bad faith.

Give it a day. I think he’s legit.

[NYNick]

That's one dumpster fire of an auction.

[mepstein]

Sometimes the comments are helpful. Usually they are silly at best and often just trolls - at least on BAT.

[juanbenae]

couple thoughts since this post 1st hit above the fold...

it is a G50, so somebody is getting punched in the mouth.... (insert smiley emoji here)

the car is nearly 35 years old, but 80k track miles is hard to imagine. figure a 3 mile track, that's 26k+ laps! i tracked, built and raced a car for nearly 12 years and did not come close to sniffing 10k miles on track per my mile documentation. i did a lot of laps & may bank accounted proves it..

the fender well cut outs are in the location of what was likely a bolt in autopower rollbar. i had one in my SC when simply tracking and the mounts landed right there. i drank the coolaid and installed one in the fender and floorboard sheet metal and carried that for looking at boat anchor around for about a year. if the seller disputes that, one of you BAT guys should ask him to show a photo of the tin tub floor just behind the front seat in the rear footwell. there'd be 4 holes about 7/16" in diameter.

seller admits paint work so that's that. I'd like to see the headliner, peddle rubber (track wear is not like daily driving on them), the underside, the frunk carpet pulled back and better photos of the engine bay. if work has been done it will show.

now, who's getting one to the mouth?

[Matt Monson]

I’ll bite… while 80k track miles seems a lot, it’s really only 25-30 hours of track time per year. Car sold in Illinois originally. If the buyer had a membership at Autobahn Country Club, getting that many mi/hours is something some guys do over a summer after work, grabbing an hour or two of run time once or twice a week. Add in the occasional Club Racing or NASA weekend to RA and MO, and the math totally works.

[Mehoff]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

couple thoughts since this post 1st hit above the fold...

it is a G50, so somebody is getting punched in the mouth.... (insert smiley emoji here)

the car is nearly 35 years old, but 80k track miles is hard to imagine. figure a 3 mile track, that's 26k+ laps! i tracked, built and raced a car for nearly 12 years and did not come close to sniffing 10k miles on track per my mile documentation. i did a lot of laps & may bank accounted proves it..

the fender well cut outs are in the location of what was likely a bolt in autopower rollbar. i had one in my SC when simply tracking and the mounts landed right there. i drank the coolaid and installed one in the fender and floorboard sheet metal and carried that for looking at boat anchor around for about a year. if the seller disputes that, one of you BAT guys should ask him to show a photo of the tin tub floor just behind the front seat in the rear footwell. there'd be 4 holes about 7/16" in diameter.

seller admits paint work so that's that. I'd like to see the headliner, peddle rubber (track wear is not like daily driving on them), the underside, the frunk carpet pulled back and better photos of the engine bay. if work has been done it will show.

now, who's getting one to the mouth?

Almost certainly hyperbole on the mileage claim. It looks like it was an HPDE car, so most likely driven to/from track events. That adds up real quickly and could easily be claimed on a “track only” car.

Seller sounds like a douche and a liar, so I wouldn’t risk buying from him. That said, car looks to be in good shape and obviously cared for. Pictures show it has the spendy bits on the suspension, so if it was also monoballed and had the rubber bushings replaced as needed it could be a good car and probably in better mechanical shape than a low mileage garage queen. Body damage is another story and will/should have a huge impact on value.

[juanbenae]

as i read it the seller is a "dealer".

You only bark, no biting M2,,,,. I guess turning laps at a country club might be like living on a golf course or airstrip? just so ya know it was 26,666.66666666 forever laps.... thought that was something... (insert emoji here)

[911hutch]

Track toy, not a "race car"... In the pic of the bottom of the floor pan you can see where the reinforcement plate that sandwiches the floor between the foot of the main hoop and the reinforcement plate, with the four bolt holes..but there doesn't appear to be an indication of any up front so probably no full cage. Stock exhaust and brakes (not that they couldn't have been switched out) but nice suspension upgrades..

Interesting drama..

[touringmandan]

The tire selection tells a story. Porsche enthusiasts know that high quality tires are a necessity.
The suspension and brake performance are limited by the tire's abilities. That's why we all like Michelin Pilot SuperSports. SuperSports are expensive. That's why flippers install "economy" tires.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

as i read it the seller is a "dealer".

You only bark, no biting M2,,,,. I guess turning laps at a country club might be like living on a golf course or airstrip? just so ya know it was 26,666.66666666 forever laps.... thought that was something... (insert emoji here)

Bernie, is that you?

[jhynesrockmtn]

I'm surprised BAT didn't remove those comments. They are getting to where they will quickly delete negative comments on auctions. May be that they deemed these legit so they let them pass.

[911hutch]

Not BAT

[Rick Brooklyn]

Yeah this auction is not on BaT, it's called Marqued, one of several copycats. But the concept of comments being valuable clearly applies to all auction sites. Btw I think BaT would not only have allowed the comments but good chance they would have stopped the auction.

[Matt Monson]

So to wrap it up… the guy was/is the previous owner’s son. And while he was exaggerating about it being exclusively a race car, it was in fact raced in PCA some, tracked some, and driven in the street as well. It has a story, but not a car with stories, if you will.

[Travisrt1985]

I'd want to see the 50k in receipts the prev owners son says he has.