Air cooled values seems to have changed

[Bucketlist]

Some of the kids got started really young:

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

My kids come to my shop and work and have for years. I started working at age 9 and never stopped. I tell them there will always be someone smarter, better looking, friends with the boss, better school, etc at a job, but if you know how to work you are already ahead of them all. Knowing how to show up and work is invaluable.

---Adam

Absolutely. I would bring my boys into the bathroom when I was fixing or replacing a toilet. Have them "help" me change the oil or repair the deck. My father never did that stuff.

Son #1 installed a Bilco door last week and rebuilt his back deck. Son #2 installed a new dishwasher himself a month ago.

My daughter brings out her NY 'tude when she needs it and is happy to have it, even though she's pretty chill living out in CO near Matt. Living in my house growing up had other advantages too!

[Matt Monson]

My kid, at 11, is in the third year of running an egg business. We’ve got 32 hens and at this point I’ve transitioned her to doing everything. Feed, water, clean up, egg gathering, etc. we’ve recently reached the point where she can also be primary caregiver when one gets sick. We sell eggs for $5/dozen. I split it with her evenly to cover feed and “rents”. Revenues are about $60/week.

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

My kid, at 11, is in the third year of running an egg business. We’ve got 32 hens and at this point I’ve transitioned her to doing everything. Feed, water, clean up, egg gathering, etc. we’ve recently reached the point where she can also be primary caregiver when one gets sick. We sell eggs for $5/dozen. I split it with her evenly to cover feed and “rents”. Revenues are about $60/week.

This is awesome! So many valuable lessons. Responsibilty, budgeting, care and feeding, reward.

Personal responsibilty is taught. Good job. This will last her a lifetime.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by NYNick

This is awesome! So many valuable lessons. Responsibilty, budgeting, care and feeding, reward.

Personal responsibilty is taught. Good job. This will last her a lifetime.

Yep, all the life lessons. She has hatched and hand raised animals. And today we are having a funeral for her favorite. She was only 5, but she was bred and raised here. I didn’t learn about death until I was 18 and lost my grandfather. She has already experienced a dog, 2 cats and a few birds. She understands death to be part of the cycle of life, a lesson I didn’t learn until well into life.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by NYNick

This is awesome! So many valuable lessons. Responsibilty, budgeting, care and feeding, reward.

Personal responsibilty is taught. Good job. This will last her a lifetime.

Kids understand money, when they earn it.

My son wanted to buy one of those 1 wheel things, they are about $750. When he figured out how much work it would take added to his savings he said it wasn't a good buy and spent his money on other stuff. He also buys junk gaming consoles at flea markets and yard sales, gets them working and re-sells them, he is 13 and already hustling!

---Adam

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

Kids understand money, when they earn it.

My son wanted to buy one of those 1 wheel things, they are about $750. When he figured out how much work it would take added to his savings he said it wasn't a good buy and spent his money on other stuff. He also buys junk gaming consoles at flea markets and yard sales, gets them working and re-sells them, he is 13 and already hustling!

---Adam

Nice.

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

Kids understand money, when they earn it.

My son wanted to buy one of those 1 wheel things, they are about $750. When he figured out how much work it would take added to his savings he said it wasn't a good buy and spent his money on other stuff. He also buys junk gaming consoles at flea markets and yard sales, gets them working and re-sells them, he is 13 and already hustling!

---Adam

I love a young entrepreneur!

[911heaven]

Originally Posted by NYNick

I love a young entrepreneur!

I wasn't born with a silver spoon up my bum, and don't want to say like some here. There was no money given to me from day one, even though the Jewish father had money. That is how it happens and not by choice. When there's no money, a young person will find a way to get some at all odds. That is the entreprenurial spirit, but it isn't taught by a father necessarily. In my experience it came only by a deficit of help, advice or money -- only hunger and ambition. Maybe that was the lesson I learned from my father i.e. I give you nothing period.

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by 911heaven

I wasn't born with a silver spoon up my bum, and don't want to say like some here. There was no money given to me from day one, even though the Jewish father had money. That is how it happens and not by choice. When there's no money, a young person will find a way to get some at all odds. That is the entreprenurial spirit, but it isn't taught by a father necessarily. In my experience it came only by a deficit of help, advice or money -- only hunger and ambition. Maybe that was the lesson I learned from my father i.e. I give you nothing period.

Not many on Pelican are silver spooned…. Most here have done it on their own or from meager beginnings.

Sorry to hear your father was so disappointing.

That sucks.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by 911heaven

I wasn't born with a silver spoon up my bum, and don't want to say like some here. There was no money given to me from day one, even though the Jewish father had money. That is how it happens and not by choice. When there's no money, a young person will find a way to get some at all odds. That is the entreprenurial spirit, but it isn't taught by a father necessarily. In my experience it came only by a deficit of help, advice or money -- only hunger and ambition. Maybe that was the lesson I learned from my father i.e. I give you nothing period.

I hope your weren't referring to me as silver spooned. The late great Dr. Wright made a tremendous amount of money, and managed to spend it all, down the last dollar. When he died I inherited his Craftsman Double Stack, still have it, far right of the picture.

---Adam

[911heaven]

Originally Posted by Macroni

Not many on Pelican are silver spooned…. Most here have done it on their own or from meager beginnings.

Sorry to hear your father was so disappointing.

That sucks.

Yes it does. Quick story to make the point, 24 years ago came home, jumped into his car to drive to Vegas see my HS best friend Dan MaHoney (car dealer). An hour out of Tonopah due to jet lag fell asleep, crossed the line and then woke up pulled out slowly but, took out the whole side of father's pontiac AND the suspension of a fully loaded 18 wheeler. Both went to the scrapyard. 6 inches to the left and I wouldn't be alive now.

I've posted pics of this accident years ago talking with M2 who had a similar accident in the Sierra Nevada Mountains so not to repeat it. My point about the father is this -- a few years later on a trip home he say -- you cost us 12K! I say bullsh-t you got 5-6K blue book pay out on insurance!! He say yeah but we didn't want to buy an older car with higher milage etc. Then he say AND you never replaced My Eddie Bauer Jeans!!

Those were the ones I borrowd from him on the trip to Vegas or OC CA where I never made it to. Those were the ones they cut off of me in the emergency room in a Tonapah hospital. He had the gall to say that to me years later. Yeah, no silver spoon, just born in the USA, me and Bruce the Boss.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

I hope your weren't referring to me as silver spooned. The late great Dr. Wright made a tremendous amount of money, and managed to spend it all, down the last dollar. When he died I inherited his Craftsman Double Stack, still have it, far right of the picture.

---Adam

Actually Adam, you inherited more than that tool box, but the drive to make it on your own, and to be able to say that "You built that" . Growing up, I had to fund my BMX bikes, skateboards, and surfboards . I learned how to wheel and deal at a very early age.
Kids today don't understand picking deposit bottles and cashing them in at 7/11, dragging a lawn mower and gallon of gas around the neighborhood to earn money.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

I hope your weren't referring to me as silver spooned. The late great Dr. Wright made a tremendous amount of money, and managed to spend it all, down the last dollar. When he died I inherited his Craftsman Double Stack, still have it, far right of the picture.

---Adam]

Lovin' it. Still have my Craftsman tools I use everyday, but I have a penchant for S-K and USAG that goes into the mixture. Nice stacks though.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Kids today don't understand picking deposit bottles and cashing them in at 7/11, dragging a lawn mower and gallon of gas around the neighborhood to earn money.

That's because they're busy building drop ship retail web stores, getting paid affiliate links, investing in tech stocks and crypto, and getting paid adverts on their social media platforms.

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

That's because they're busy building drop ship retail web stores, getting paid affiliate links, investing in tech stocks and crypto, and getting paid adverts on their social media platforms.

Ironically, that is why basic skills are falling off.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

Lovin' it. Still have my Craftsman tools I use everyday, but I have a penchant for S-K and USAG that goes into the mixture. Nice stacks though.

The Ferrari box is USAG. Came out of Ferrari of Manhattan. Far right of pic.

---Adam

[Cobalt]

I spent three days two weeks ago at Watkins Glen with my son and his two friends all 25. His one friend works for a formula ford team and the other is just into cars. They have the drive to work on their cars and IMO spent way to much time working and not enough time enjoying t he social aspect. So I jumped in to give them some, as my son says life experience. It was nice to be appreciated and they later asked if they could pay me for my knowledge as they wanted to understand what I know. I thanked them and told them they are on the right path and that what I know takes a lifetime to learn.

They reminded me of myself at that age when all I had was a Chilton's manual and nobody to help. My father (RIP) couldn't screw a light bulb into a socket but at the age of 17 I was restoring 911's. They say it skips generations. My son is not as anxious to jump in and do the work like me he isn't my father but knows how to work the system to his behalf. Although when I am not around he helps his friends with their cars on my lift. I have no doubt he wants that feeling of doing it himself without me being "Judgemental". In reality my experience tells me when impending doom or mistakes are about to be made so I try to help but he is as stubborn as his old man and wants to learn for himself even if it costs him. At 25 he is making stupid money working for Porsche so it is easier for him to sub the work out but the best times are spent working with him on his car toys. I will be back at the Glen this next weekend with him and watching him drive is a thing of beauty. Fast smooth and safe.

Adam I think that most parents don't encourage or guide their children to learn simple tasks or trades. I guess in this disposable world not many know themselves, so the problem continues to grow. I tired to show my son what I could, he listened and I know he has the skillset but not as motivated to get dirty and break his back doing it like me. It is cool to see your daughters getting down and dirty working on cars. I see more and more young ladies and older ones driving and even working on cars. Funny my friends call me a hoarder. LOL

Maybe there is still hope for this world.

I guess this has something to do with future values of the air-cooled.

[911heaven]

Originally Posted by Unobtanium-inc

I hope your weren't referring to me as silver spooned. The late great Dr. Wright made a tremendous amount of money, and managed to spend it all, down the last dollar. When he died I inherited his Craftsman Double Stack, still have it, far right of the picture.

---Adam

At least you inherited something nice! Is that the end of the list? My grandfolks fled the Ukraine 100 years ago on the last Russian invasion. They had a family milk farm in Herschel Saskatchewan Canada. I inherited nothing! either side. My first bicycle Shwinn 10 speed age 9 bought myself $100 from aluminum beer cans dumpster diving Saturday Sunday mornings for ages back alley of main street Nevada small town casinos. Are you saying you didn't have a head start?

Second thought, my grandpa Plett gave me a bone handled hunting knife and an old 22 calibar rifle as a young child on a visit to Canada with the family. Made it home USA with the knife, US customs confiscated the rifle, so I lost that.

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by 911heaven

Are you saying you didn't have a head start?

Bernie,

I am curious as to why you feel the need to pursue this. Why can't you contribute w/o turning it into a negative?

Yes, I was given a spoon....

I am in a fifth-generation business bravely founded in an immigrant's grocery store. I can assure you in my forty years working here I have made contributions that have positively altered the organization and have certainly bettered my family. These accomplishments are recognized as mine. This does not diminish the foundation laid for me by both sacrifices and investments of my Father, Grandfather and Great Grandfather.

I have been here for a while and for the most part I have found it to be a humble community. A community that shares what it is proud of.... businesses, families and Porsche's.