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Excellence May Values

While I know the 911 S cars will always be highly desirable, the 911E's compared to the 911T's seems a bit off. I would have thought there would be more of a difference. The E is a bit rarer and has more power than the T, and better suited for street use than a high revving S.
Quite surprising, while I am pleased, is the 1973.5 values being higher than the MFI version. When you read Pelicans forums, there always seemed to me a bias towards the MFI cars over the CIS.
The part I don't get is, the 1973.5 911T compared to the 911E. In the average to good categories, the '73.5 is higher than the E, and the same price in excellent condition. All I can think of is that the 73.5 is a kind of unique 6 month only first of it's kind intake system, but on the flip side the MFI is the last of it's kind.

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CIS is better. Around here you’re often dealing with hot riders and people who think MFI is cool. It’s like an RS. Etc. outside of this bubble the trouble free driving CIS was a step forward. So many 73.5 cars got S deco and trim that there is really no downside.
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Former 73.5 owner here. Matt is correct about the 73.5 cars generally having the S trim package (polished wheel opening trim!), and that the CIS works pretty well.

But, in all honesty, I think I'd rather have the MFI. I can't help it, I just think the MFI (developed by Bosch for WWII German fighters) is super cool--found on 300SL, 2002tii, Pagodas, and of course the RS/Carrera cars.

As for the E vs T, no question that E's demand a significant premium over T's. I don't know why they'd indicate otherwise.

And you could also make a strong case for any 72 to trade at a premium to a comparable 73 or 73.5. People love the oil flap, and 72's don't have the hideous rubber bumperettes on the US cars for MY73.
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Like Matt states, my 73.5 did come with the S gauges and trim, or comfort equipment, 7R case, Fuchs, sway bars, and tinted glass. I also like the CIS now that I know how to work on it, much easier than setting up MFI. The ugly bumpers were on all the models starting in January, along with reinforced bumper mounts and doors.
What I have to agree with though is Mockers opinion, that the MFI is kind of cool, as is the unique oil flap on the '72. Besides, I think a lot of buyers just want a collectable as a show car at meets, more than a regular driver.
With all that, I just don't get the E values. It has to be a bit rarer than the T, and more affordable than an S. To price a '73.5 T in excellent condition the same as an E in excellent condition seems wrong.
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For reference I had a '73.5 Targa with standard (non-S) trim and gauges. There were some things like S trim and 5-speed (4spd was standard) that were almost always specced, but there are exceptions.

Excellence values used to be way cheaper than market. These numbers seem crazy high! Are these even close to being accurate?

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