930 with non original engine

[hchc]

There is a 930 for sale with freshly rebuilt 3.4 big turbo. And I need some opinion on pricing this. The engine is not the original engine so I'm pricing this as a 930 body with a 500+ hp engine. Does that make sense?

How much does such engine worth? I think a used unmoded 930 crate engine can goes for 8-10k...and most of what i read is that performance mods is worth 0.5 on the dollar if you are lucky...

[WPOZZZ]

if you want to do it that way, you can. There is a roller for sale on this forum for $17k and there was a 500hp+ MODE motor for @ $50k. Or just consider it as a 930 with some mods and see what others are being sold for. There is a similar one for sale here for $32k, I think.

[Matt Monson]

Saying ,"Freshly rebuilt 3.4 big turbo" is like saying newly painted in yellow. Is it glass out? Is it a factory color? Is it Glasurit in the original color or is it Sherwin Williams in a Subaru yellow? Was it done by a top shop or in his garage turned spraybooth?

Do you see my point? We need a lot more information on the engine to even begin to place a value on it. Builder and spec is very important.

That said, I will give you my 2 cents on the 930 market in general. There's two types of 930's. There's stock original cars and there's modded cars. Given the nature of the 930, many of those modded cars are really really modded and have as much money dumped into them in mods as the car is worth.

So where does this put the value of them? What I am generally seeing is bone stock nice original 930s sell for almost the exact same money as balls to the wall modded 930s. This is that 50 cents on the dollar thing you're talking about. Take a 930 that as an original car would sell for $30k and spend $15-20K on modding it and when you balance out the hit in value for it being a modded car with the added value in it being a modded car, and you're back to a $30k 930. This would be true for all but the most exceptional cars like RUF remanufactured vehicles or Kevin Jeanette's 930 that was for sale last year. A 930 with a 962 engine in it's going to be an outlier from the general pattern.

I don't think the 930 market is the same as something like the early car market. A 1970 911E with a 3.0 911sc swap is worth less than a nice stock numbers matching 1970 911E. But the caliber of mods and the kind of real money that's been put into 930s makes it a different game. When was the last time you saw a 1970 911e with a $10,000 g50/50 tranny swap in it? It just doesn't happen. It gets a $1500 915 swap put into it. But there's a number of early and middle production 930's with that exact gearbox swap done to it.

I'm one of those guys who would buy a car (like a 930) based on it being the right spec for my desires. If I wanted an original 930 to collect and have value long term I would buy a stock one. But I'm a hot rodder, so I would buy the modded car and have fun with it, knowing full well that today's market is likely not what 2020's market will be. Today the 930's described above are near identical in value. A decade from now I suspect that the stock 930's will appreciate a good bit while the modded ones will gain value less, if at all.

[cardsrule]

i would say modds are worth 10 cents on the dollar if that... Things are a lot different in the 930 world. 5-7 years ago the 930 was one of the cars to mod, seams that has totally changed.