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You want $40k for a "T" and you can't afford hood stuts

Had a little rant when I see these longhoods for silly prices and the picture of the trunk is blocked by a broom handle. I mean really, what does that indicate to you?

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That it's a typical longhood.

If the hood stays up on its own, beware! Photoshop!
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i understand what you're saying but the last longhood i looked at that had a piece of PVC holding up the hood was one of the nicer appearing cars i've seen available for some time.

has absolutely zero bearing on what i would pay.
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new hood shocks

or it could just need new hood struts/shocks.............adds at least 10K to the value.

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check the left instrument as well on the dash.................is it fogged up? leave it alone......its pure classic 911! It works, does'nt it?

I agree with the hood shocks. I replaced mine for a few bucks and even replaced the shock to hold up the engine hood. Did'nt drain the bank!

Longhood have quirky things going on like a patina that gives them character! Maybe using a piece of PVC or dowel to hold the hood up was tradition for years with this owner. I think its great!

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Al, you do know the engine will not fit in there?
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Al, you do know the engine will not fit in there?
Now that's funny!
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I just sold my 993 and as a courtesy to the prospective buyers I replaced the hood shocks prior to its sale. My point is, if you want all the money for a car that shows and drives close to new, there should be no excuses not even simple hood shocks. These days the beloved longhoods are becoming another bubble in my opinion. Rare will always be rare. However, having owned a brace of longhoods in the past, I feel that they are overpriced. At what point does price equal driving pleasure. There are many 911's that are very fun to drive, perhaps more fun than a vintage 911 at a fraction of their cost. I love em all, I just cannot wrap my brain around $30+K for a mint 911T.
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Al, you do know the engine will not fit in there?
It will fit behind the radiator.....right?
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Found a real estate flag on a 1/4" fiberglass rod in the garage of a house I rented. Cut it to hold the long hood in a fully erect position. Not suggesting you go out and raid RE agents' little flags, just sayin it worked for me. Worst solution I've ever seen was at an (unnamed) local shop where the owner just clamped a vice-grip on the shaft of the strut.
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I Have been known to use the vice grip trick in the past. Unfortunately if you nick the shaft too much oil will come spraying out when you shut the hood. Oh, the things we do. Perhaps a little dawn dish soap is in order to make our engines fit in the wrong end of the car??
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Funny topic....I as well agree with the OP...I recently looked at a 930 with 49k miles with an unrealistic price of $59,900.00. The front and rear (front bonnet and engine lid) struts were shot. Can't believe most people are either to lazy or too cheap to replace them. If something so minor is not replaced who knows what else has not been replaced or repaired.
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or it could just need new hood struts/shocks.............adds at least 10K to the value.[/img]
$15K if it has a Cool Collar, too.

BTW, new hood shocks will keep a longhood up.
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If only the designers didn't try and make a strut hold up a steel hood from the verrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy end of the hood. Thats a massive amount of leverage going against the strut.
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I often do not fix pesky little stuff like this during my ownership. Hood shocks are VERY annoyiong as they never last more than 2 years. But that said, when it is time to sell, I ALWAYS clean up and detail my cars and fix up all the little stuff.

Sometimes my wife comments on it "oh no - now you put a new window handle to sell the truck? After driving around for 5 years without one?"

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One of the things I hate the most in for sale ads are the "just needs the xxx fixed. Easy fix - will only take 5 minutes". Shoot, in the time you write about it you could have done it! Or it isn't the oil pressure gauge after all rather than the engine's bottom end getting tired.

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I've replaced my hood shocks twice now, and I've only had the car for 6 years. They last maybe a year. I bought one of these a few weeks ago after getting sick of the broomstick, and it works awesome:
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BTW, it's not just sellers that can be unrealistic. I had my longhood up for sale earlier this summer, and didn't get any serious offers over 15k. Mine's no show car, no doubt, but it's been gone through mechanically and came with a spare, rebuilt engine, as well as the original #s matching engine (out for a rebuild).
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The old line you get what you pay for holds true for even vintage Porsche cars. I have to say that of all the cars I have owned, they tend to be the most difficult to sell. That having been said, what is the deal with all these dealers trying to move the market with their ridiculous asking prices of average cars. We all know how difficult it is to sell a high dollar item like a rare, old Porsche. I know of individuals with very nice cars that have tried to reach close to these figures and failed. Making a little money is one thing, but trying to contrive the market just irritates me. Be strong and do not allow your passion and emotion to get in the way of reason. All the best, Steve
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I suspect a lot of high dealer prices are customer consignment cars - the customer wants to sell the car, the dealership agrees to show it, the customer states the price and the dealer has to mark it up xx dollars. We do that all the time. It's nice because you get to have nice inventory on the lot, but the prices are frequently out the window. We've got a 92 corvette in fair (at best) condition, asking $15k. Not a chance.
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related, but not in the sense of it being a longhood.

The past week I replaced both Hood and Hatch struts on my 944. Its amazing the difference a little item like that can make. The rear hatch actually rises up on its own (of course, its harder to close now).. and the hood opens evenly and nicely as well.

Ditch the broomsticks and replace those failed struts!!!!!!!

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