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carfax HOw far back- how old a car
how old a car can you get a Carfax report on ?
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11-18-2010, 03:30 PM
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I think it has to be 1981+.
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11-18-2010, 06:39 PM
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17 digit VIN.
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11-18-2010, 09:29 PM
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11-19-2010, 12:45 AM
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Carfax begain in 1991 as I recall
While the 17 character VIN began in 1981, Carfax did not exist until around 1991 and I rarely see data on Carfax reports from transactions prior to 1991.
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My 1983 has 17 records, from when it was first plated in early 83 to my last renewal in 2010. It includes all plates renewal and 2 garage visit (in Quebec garage have to report Odometer reading). It vary depending of the location. I ran a CarFax on the 2 nd cab in Canada (British Columbia) and the event reporting start in the Mids 90, samething for the 1st Cab in the US (California).
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11-22-2010, 03:41 AM
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I've had a problem when trying to find info on pre-1981 SC's- they are not in carfax.
I go here to confirm it is in range: Simon's Porsche 911 SC Site And here to check smog history (at least for California) Vehicle Test History But how can we (the public) access the databases that carfax and autocheck pull from?
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11-23-2010, 10:31 PM
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I ran a car fax on my Targa and history stopped the year before I picked it up.
Might be thet NC DMV does not sent the info.
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On a vintage car, like an air-cooled 911, I personally would never try to pull a carfax on it. I might do a title search to make sure that it's a clean and unencumbered title, but beyond that, there's just way too many variables with a 20 or 30 year old car. A good thorough PPI by a well respected shop is really the best thing to do.
I will make an example from my own recent personal history. I had what I thought was a pretty decent 1968 911T. It was a low mileage car at 45k mi, and spent the better part of the last 15 years parked. I traded the car to a local gentleman for my '86 Carrera. We both went over the car, jacked it up, looked it over, etc. etc. To our eyes it looked solid, and both of us are guys in the industry who have been around these cars for many years. Once he took delivery, he took it to his body man to have a bit of kidney bowl rust repaired, and was considering returning it to it's original light ivory. His body man, who is definitely a specialist who does concours caliber work, told him that the car showed signs of an accident, and based on the quality of repairs he believed it happened in the early to mid 1970's. It wasn't that it was shoddy work. It was just the quality of work they did back then with the tools they had, and not up to the standard of restoration work that is being done today. The previous owners, a little old couple, who I bought the car from didn't know about the repairs. When they bought the car in 1986 they weren't informed of the accident. The shop that serviced it prior to that, which is still around, didn't know about the accident. And me and the buyer didn't see it. And who is to say that it would have been on a carfax if it went back that far anyway? Do you know how many cars get paint and body work for cash without any insurance trail? Especially during the "low value years" when something like a 1974 911 was worth $5000. If, during the 90's, that car got hit and needed $3000 worth of body work, the owner often wouldn't involve insurance because they would total the car and brand the car with an "S" title. To many, paying out of pocket to fix it is preferable to making a perfectly good car into a salvage vehicle. It's all about records, reciepts, and a proper inspection. Maybe if you are buying a 2000 Toyota Tacoma it's a good thing, but for a vintage car? I consider it a waste of time and money.
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The very first (and random) pre-90's car I pulled up on E-Bay had a CarFax with pre-1991 info. How is that "rarely"?   Nonetheless, it is what it is. One tool to be used when shopping for a car. Wouldn't rely on it 100% though. |
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11-24-2010, 02:07 PM
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Das Babe
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