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911T prices
Why are 911T's so expensive?
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because it is a 911t ....
Original masters of art are always expensive ... Check prices on a 73rs ... or a 901 |
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Long nose 911s have jumped in $$$ the last five years
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![]() all pre74 cars trade at a premium. 901, 911, Normale, T, E, S or RS. They are a classic sports car which harken back to a simpler time. They are considered the originals. The T pictured here, owned by my friend Reza, is as comfortable as an old leather chair.... simple and relaxed yet fun to push hard when desired. Much less high strung than my S. ![]()
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Banned but not out, yet..
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Maybe even pre-74?
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Because I sold mine 5 years ago, right before they quadrupled in value..
I bought my '73 for $5500 and sold it a few years later for $7200 and thought I did well. I couldn't buy that car back for under $20k now...
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I'd probably go with......... Supply and demand.
Only so many of them around, lotsa guys who would like one. |
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911T's are great cars. They are quick and nimble for daily street driving. And they can still comfortably do 100 mph all day long on the highway. I have had mine up to over 125 on the Autobahn here in Germany a few times for short periods. All of these cars love to run - not just the S's. Everything else on these cars is pretty much interchangeable and a question of the owner's personal preferences and the extra money in the wallet.
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As a 1973.5T owner for the past ten years I must say that after owning a 1974 911 and 1980 SC, the "T" has been the greatest joy to own. Its pure 70's! Torquey, noisy, sure footed, plenty of chrome trim, pop-out rear vent windows, soft non-bolstered chairs (not seats mind you) and a ton of character. Excellent for the male ego!
The longhoods are a special breed and for the Porsche purist, the embodiment of Porsche engineering excellence and simplicity. Pick up an original sales brochure and they promote driving from the showroom to the track. A far cry from my more modern SC, the "T" does lack the "S" speed to handle the muscle cars of the era, but makes it up in overall handling. I bought my "T" for under 10K after the second owner put 34K into total restoration. Amazing! But as the years pass, the longhoods will only increase in value and soon reach 356 stature. Longhood parts are readily available for restoration, performance and maintenance from over dozens of parts vendors around the country. They are not that expensive to maintain. As a daily driver they are excellent in day to day traffic on the highway or full bore on the twisties. Overall, great cars. Cost of admission is going up, so grab one while you can. Bob 73.5T in Sepia of course |
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2.4 T's...
The later 2.4 versions are especially nice, with either MFI or CIS.
They are lighter (100+ pounds) than post '74's, with decent power and a counterweighted and forged crank that was lacking in 2.0/2.2's. I think most people say a nicely tuned 2.4 T will run with a stock SC. Let's face it, they're very nice looking "pure" cars from Porsche's hardcore racing years. Many times they come in beautiful color hues. They have enough 356 type charm (polished trim, pop open rear windows, etc.), but with a thoroughbred engine. They perform well even by today's standards. While I don't really understand the 356 price rise on run down rusted hulks (especially the common models, like the 1600 "B"), I do understand the early 911 price jump. |
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Indeed, the cars of the early 70's were painted in an array of rainbow colors from electric blue to sepia brown. Simply that what was available. For some Sepia Brown is viewed as an undesirable color despite its popularity when introduced. It would be crazy if one was to avoid purchasing a longhood strictly on color choice rather then originality. Sepia Brown was Dr. Porsche's preferred color and he had his favorite model. the 928 painted in Sepia. Maybe because it was considered more conservative then the other colors offered. A Porsche salesman who has been selling Porsches for over 30 years remarked to me recently, "the Sepia cars were more favored by the country gentleman" back in those days.
When I bought my 73.5T it was in Sepia. Sure I could have opted to spend 5-7K for a repaint, but I decided to keep it as original as from the factory. If your buying a longhood I recommend you keep it in the original color for its beauty, investment quality and respect for a great car from a bygone era. My 2-cents Bob 73.5T in beautiful Sepia of course ![]() |
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Sunroof,
Well said!
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Sepia rules... Here's my ex 73.5T.
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While I'm all but an expert on this topic, I'll add my $0.02 to this thread:
I'd suggest to keep one important aspect in mind: Asking price does not equal selling price. I've been in the market for a 73.5T Targa for over a year now, and I've come across quite a few cars for sale that had an astronomic price tag. More often than not those cars disappear from the market and resurface a few weeks/moths later again. Sometimes with a slightly lower asking price, sometimes with a higher asking price from the same seller - almost comical. So while I agree that prices have skyrocketed lately (for all the good reasons mentioned by the other posters above), I'd suggest to take sticker prices with a grain of salt...
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As a past owner of a US 1972 911T with MFI and a present owner of a 1979 SC my judgment is that the 79 SC is far superior in driving handling and with more power. Yet it feels as nible as my 72T but with better road handling to boot. I think the SC's actually are under valued and with their engines they far outlast the mid 70's cars, not to mention their rust propensity.
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Your most likely true on your statements. But long hoods have a special place, SC must have the Federal bumpers, (to me Porsche did a good job with the bumpers), the seats, dash, and other things are different and weight. Rust has killed many long hoods making the herd smaller and more valuable. Plus people do not like all the Federal mandated requirements like catalic converters, AC, all the comfort stuff. But no question SC are nice rides. |
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As a 1980 SC owner for many years, sure the SC's are great cars with the 3.0 "bullet proof" engines, flared fenders and notable improvements over the 2.7 models (1974 - 1977). For a time I was considering trading my 73.5T for an SC so I agree with your statements. But, the subject here are the long hood values and where they stand in this economy.
I recently had my car at a well known P-shop here who's owner has a gorgeous 1973.5T Targa. He mentioned he was selling the car and is asking 50K! I would be surprised if he would negotiate much lower. Someone will pay his price. That's the owner/sellers advantage with these cars. Supply and demand and the supply is dwindling. Bob 73.5T |
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Hi
Wow, just curious why that 1973.5 Targa your friend has is a $50,000 car?
Is it a special color or mileage? Thanks This whole price is very interesting to me, currently there is a 1972E red coupe on Evilbay for $48,000. Nice car but the dealer over states it value. He states it has been restored, missing the drivers door sticker ( very important to me), wrong engine now has a 2.7 engine, I think the wrong seats belong in a 1970-71. Many little details that a non-Porsche guy would miss. My point is the prices asked usually are not ever reached. The old saying is I have gold you have tin is true. |
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About the Targa, I know its completely restored with a fresh engine/tranny rebuild amongst other things. Its a gorgeous car and all original. This shop is very reputable and the owner has been around and active with the PCA for decades. I did not ask why the high asking price.
That other 911E (asking 48K) you mentioned with the 2.7, wrong seats, etc, etc, is ridiculous to me. But then you might have a buyer who knows nothing about what the right engine is or seats and goes strictly on only the age of the car. I have been collecting the Early 911 Update additions of Excellence Magazine (usually out in the spring) for years to keep track of what values Bruce Anderson places on these cars. He is known as one of the better experts on the Marque and I value his opinion. The early long hood price tracks have been up and down in this economy, but overall, it appears a decent "T" long hood has stayed in the 20's range. They break the sound barrier now and then, but collectively no where near the 356 ranges. I know today I would not take anything less than 25K for my car and I feel that's a fair price. Bob 73.5T |
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