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[unclebilly]

That white 76 is a nice car but I don't think the stitching on the dash is original. Also the shocks should have been green Billstiens. The oil return tubes have also been replaced and it looks like the exhaust is has been replaced.

[onboost]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

That white 76 is a nice car but I don't think the stitching on the dash is original. Also the shocks should have been green Billstiens. The oil return tubes have also been replaced and it looks like the exhaust is has been replaced.

Wasn't gonna go there but as you've mentioned above, it does have a number of things that are incorrect. Mirrors would also be incorrect for that year as it should be drovers side only, and I don't think it should be the flag mirror either. The Turbo badging is incorrect, should be TurboCarerra.

[shlobeck]

Nobody cares.....its a straight, good looking 3 litre car 930, that's all what matters these days. Anal Porschephiles are not buying these cars anymore. Higher end collectors/buyers don't know and don't really care about these fine details, as long as it's "investment grade". Only US spec cars got the "turbo carrera" moniker, RoW cars including Japanese imports got the "turbo" designator.

[CFD]

......flag mirror is correct as well for '76.

Originally Posted by onboost

Wasn't gonna go there but as you've mentioned above, it does have a number of things that are incorrect. Mirrors would also be incorrect for that year as it should be drovers side only, and I don't think it should be the flag mirror either. The Turbo badging is incorrect, should be TurboCarerra.

[voitureltd]

Originally Posted by shlobeck

Nobody cares.....its a straight, good looking 3 litre car 930, that's all what matters these days. Anal Porschephiles are not buying these cars anymore. Higher end collectors/buyers don't know and don't really care about these fine details, as long as it's "investment grade".

Well said. That leaves the, not detailed to the max with well cared for reasonable mileage per year 930s, for the other Porschephiles. Drive on.

[kenikh]

I've come to the conclusion that the dollars these cars draw is directly proportional to the marketing savvy of the seller. The "big" dollar buyers (I'm saying the $100K range) only care as much about originality as they are fed by the seller on the notion of provenance.

I will say that the BIG dollar buyers (sales that don't make it into the public eye, like a certain $300K+, 2K original mile, early production 3L 930) will always be about the minutiae...but how many BIG dollar buyers are both Porschephiles and OCD crazy about the details? Small market.

[onboost]

Originally Posted by shlobeck

Nobody cares.....its a straight, good looking 3 litre car 930, that's all what matters these days. Anal Porschephiles are not buying these cars anymore. Higher end collectors/buyers don't know and don't really care about these fine details, as long as it's "investment grade". Only US spec cars got the "turbo carrera" moniker, RoW cars including Japanese imports got the "turbo" designator.

Wow, that's really great to hear as it usually appears as of late that most down in the weeds with the details of what's correct or incorrect for a given year etc.. and how it effects "value."

I for one, like you.. don't care could as long as its a nice car.

Only had a quick glance.. didn't see that it was Euro, but you are correct regarding designation between US and RoW.

Originally Posted by CFD

......flag mirror is correct as well for '76.

Yes, I can never remember for that year.. but pass side was an option.

[willtel]

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[unclebilly]

I gotta say that with current sale prices unloading my 76 is very tempting (and I have mentioned this before). I wonder how much more upside there could possibly be?

Where do you think these cars will settle out in 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?

[cover]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

I gotta say that with current sale prices unloading my 76 is very tempting (and I have mentioned this before). I wonder how much more upside there could possibly be?

Where do you think these cars will settle out in 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?

That is the million dollar question and of course completely impossible to answer correctly.

It is very difficult to make predictions........especially about the future

The 930 has gone from being a largely unloved, misunderstood and ignored 911 variant, to the most important and iconic porsche of all times............and possibly even the most significant sports car of any era and make.

This realization had been cooking in classic car circles for some time until the lid finally blew off the bottle a couple of years ago.
Who knows where it ends.

I for one believe the 930 (especially the early ones) should reside above the 2.7 RS

[Highway-Star]

I don't think 930 ever was ignored or unloved.

It was the top dog - in club events, media, magazines etc. throughout the 80s, 90s.

Those people who wanted it, did not have money to buy them.

This is what is changing. The 70s and 80s generation is beginning to have money to buy them.

[jay72]

I will say that the BIG dollar buyers (sales that don't make it into the public eye, like a certain $300K+, 2K original mile, early production 3L 930) will always be about the minutiae...but how many BIG dollar buyers are both Porschephiles and OCD crazy about the details? Small market.[/QUOTE]

2k original miles! Wow! Do you have images? Was it a white one? I remember a white/black '76 that had less miles than that-just wondering if its the same car.

[pu911]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

I gotta say that with current sale prices unloading my 76 is very tempting (and I have mentioned this before). I wonder how much more upside there could possibly be?

Where do you think these cars will settle out in 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?

I'll agree who knows - I think there is plenty more upside. I think the decision is a simple and personal one- would you rather have the 76 parked in your garage or the $$$ parked in your bank.

Phil

[kenikh]

I've heard some rational arguments that early 930s have '73 RS potential, just based on history and production metrics. At the very least, I cannot see any reason why they won't meet parity with the "Solex" 911s.

[Tt surgeon]

Watch out the values on 86-89s are set to explode this year!

[matt f]

Originally Posted by cover

That is the million dollar question and of course completely impossible to answer correctly.

It is very difficult to make predictions........especially about the future

The 930 has gone from being a largely unloved, misunderstood and ignored 911 variant, to the most important and iconic porsche of all times............and possibly even the most significant sports car of any era and make.

This realization had been cooking in classic car circles for some time until the lid finally blew off the bottle a couple of years ago.
Who knows where it ends.

I for one believe the 930 (especially the early ones) should reside above the 2.7 RS

IMO the 930 will never be valued above the 73 2.7 RS.
The raw numbers don't work.

Matt

[voitureltd]

Who cares about numbers or speculative value when you've got a better machine?? I've noticed you have a 94 3.6. I'd take that any day over any RS or RS america. Values or production numbers are for cocktail parties or pissing contests.

[matt f]

Tony,

No pissing here.
My 94 has 38k and I enjoy the car, drive it and def not worried about a chip in its hood.
No cocktail parties either.
The 73 will always be worth more than my 94.
Just my opinion.

Matt

[matt f]

If anyone wants to trade even up w me I'm in.
73 2.7 RS for my 94 T3.6, PM me.

Matt

[cover]

Originally Posted by matt f

IMO the 930 will never be valued above the 73 2.7 RS.
The raw numbers don't work.

Matt

At least, the difference in numbers does not account for the difference in value between a 73 RS and a 3.0 930.
A lot of it must be down to hype.....and now the hype is on the 930.
Impossible to predict where things level out.