Which car to sit on... 964 or G50 3.2

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Confusing to you, perhaps. Jesus, no wonder Speeder loses patience here.

The SC will be more valuable in the near term since the Porsche cognoscenti do not like the 964, for reasons I find ludicrous.

In the long run we are all dead.

No need to be a dick about it. Your first post kind of sounded like you favoured the 964. Sounds like you personally do, though you don't think that long term (a decade from now) the market will and that the G50 Carrera will be worth more, all other things equal. Just trying to have a civil conversation here and if you did in fact think 964s are going to be more valuable, I was curious to learn why.

964 RS and Cup Car variants are exploding in value. There's no reason to think that they wouldn't potentially drag their C2 brethren with them. I just wanted to know what you think, not argue with you.

[Reddy Kilowatt]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Confusing to you, perhaps. Jesus, no wonder Speeder loses patience here.

The SC will be more valuable in the near term since the Porsche cognoscenti do not like the 964, for reasons I find ludicrous.

In the long run we are all dead.

I dunno... it wasn't crystal clear to me either.

[Niche]

Drivability, last hand-made Porsche 911, last classic styled 911, better creature comforts, fewer made for fewer years, first year awd derived from 959. For me all things point to the 964. I've owned both and the 3.2 felt too old and slow. The 964 is, for me, far superior.

[Flynt]

Originally Posted by Niche

Drivability, last hand-made Porsche 911, last classic styled 911, better creature comforts, fewer made for fewer years, first year awd derived from 959. For me all things point to the 964. I've owned both and the 3.2 felt too old and slow. The 964 is, for me, far superior.

That's what I'm saying. Granted, the 964 in stock form is "too" plush, but a decent suspension, drivetrain mounts and some exhaust tweaking go a long way in livening it up. And all easily reversible.
I won't mention the looks as it's subjective. I know which one I bought, though!

85% new parts on the end-cap of the chassis is not a negative.. I feel it's the stuff that should have trickled in throughout the lifetime of the chassis but wasn't added while the cars were flying off the shelves in the 80s.

I think the 964 has just started it's climb. G50 cars have proven themselves but the 964 has gone unloved for far too long.

[techweenie]

I briefly owned a 964 with extensive modifications and I have to say, I could get used to it. Thick, syrupy torque and traditional 911 styling. But keep in mind, each major generation of 911 gained 200-300 lbs.

When you're used to driving 2300 lb longhoods, both these alternatives feel hefty.

For me, a gutted 964 backdated to long hood and minus 400 lbs or so is just about the ideal. But then, that's what a Singer is.

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by techweenie

I briefly owned a 964 with extensive modifications and I have to say, I could get used to it. Thick, syrupy torque and traditional 911 styling. But keep in mind, each major generation of 911 gained 200-300 lbs.

When you're used to driving 2300 lb longhoods, both these alternatives feel hefty.

For me, a gutted 964 backdated to long hood and minus 400 lbs or so is just about the ideal. But then, that's what a Singer is.

and there you have it!

[Matt Monson]

I agree completely with all the pluses the 964 carries. The engine and suspension were major leaps forward.

As mentioned, it is subjective, but the bumpers just have never done it for me. I don't like the impact bellows either though. I just wish the 964 got looks more like the SC-RS. That would be enough in my book to flip me from preferring a G50 3.2 to the 964. It's 100% cosmetic in book.


Interesting to see how many think the 964 will come into its own and be more valuable than late 3.2's. But at the end of the day opinion is what drives values. If more people like them, they will have higher demand, and increase in value. And I do agree that the production numbers only have a limited influence on that at the end of the day.

[Nick Triesch]

I agree that the 964 is a great car but the bumpers are huge , heavy and fat looking compared to the impact bumpers and pretty 993 bumpers. Just look like an afterthought to me. Folks like a pretty car...bottom line. It's kind of like the GT-R, I know it is a super car but it is just hideous. Could be in a 1950's Godzilla movie.

[Matt Monson]

An R33 GTR is a gorgeous car. Just like they ruined the Impreza, they ruined the Skyline. 964 is kind of the same to me. Not even in the same arena as a 993. The 993 was full redemption.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Reddy Kilowatt

I dunno... it wasn't crystal clear to me either.

I had to read it twice to get his meaning.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I agree completely with all the pluses the 964 carries. The engine and suspension were major leaps forward.
...

I just can't get past the distributor bypass engineering hack, the little tube that prevents the engine from self destruction.

[RollingArtworks]

G50 carrera. Less production

[christiandk]

Originally Posted by RollingArtworks

G50 carrera. Less production

[kreeshp]

Originally Posted by RollingArtworks

G50 carrera. Less production

Please read more, post less.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by kreeshp

Please read more, post less.

Even if his numbers are off, where is the thinking here?

Do you not get that the 964, twice the car, is a step child?

It is a Porsche factory Frankenstein. Hell yes, I wish I could own one.

It will snuff the 3.2 any day.

Investment purposes, 3.2, G-50. Take that to the bank.

[Tippy]

964's are pig heavy.

[Matt Monson]

I think like Bob, but I understand the counter point.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Tippy

964's are pig heavy.

OMG, I could not believe what a sow it was until you put the stink to it.

[kreeshp]

Originally Posted by RollingArtworks

G50 carrera. Less production

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Even if his numbers are off, where is the thinking here?

I was responding purely to the post erroneously stating "less production" of the "G50 Carrera."

It's one thing to state one's opinion and completely another to screw up facts.

[3literpwr]

Well I posed this question as a hypothetical one... I decided to go with the G50 as if I wanted a modern car, I would just buy a modern car. She is a low mileage car that was owned by a friends father for the last 24 years.